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    Lex Parsimoniae Xander's Avatar
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    Oooo a mutant INTP. Cool.

    BURN THE MUTANT!!!




    Have you tried the enneagram yet? I found it explained some of my differences with other INTPs. Combined with a pro test called FIRO-B it pretty much sums up why I'm more upbeat than your average INTP and yet am far far away from an ENTP.

    Anyhow, initial analysis would be that you're a negative feedback INTP who like management as a validation of competence. I'd love to hear your management philosophy. I'd expect you to treat people as independent and take a back seat from direct control mixed in with getting on with a part of the job which suits your mindset.

    As I said though, that's initial analysis and could be way off.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Thanks for the suggestion, I honestly hadn't thought about that. How much do you know about the field? Lots of math and programming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post

    Have you tried the enneagram yet? I found it explained some of my differences with other INTPs. Combined with a pro test called FIRO-B it pretty much sums up why I'm more upbeat than your average INTP and yet am far far away from an ENTP.

    Anyhow, initial analysis would be that you're a negative feedback INTP who like management as a validation of competence. I'd love to hear your management philosophy. I'd expect you to treat people as independent and take a back seat from direct control mixed in with getting on with a part of the job which suits your mindset.

    As I said though, that's initial analysis and could be way off.
    Never heard of enneagram or FIRO-B. I'm guessing that, like MB, they aren't cheap to take. I would like to know more about my "mutant" tendencies. Does it pretty much say that theres a personality that exists somewhere between INTP and ENTP? Or that you fluctuate between?

    In what ways are you not typical INTP?

    Not sure I understand the "negative feedback INTP." Do you mean I may be INTP due to negative feedback or that I respond to negative feedback?

    As far as my management philosophy, I am pretty hands off, I made sure that my employees knew what was expected of them and any special info for the days project and sent them on their way, only checked up on them periodically to see if they were happy and everything was smooth and to lend them a hand, and otherwise just bounced around between them seeing how they were doing. I'd only get directly involved if there was a problem. I tried to always treat them fairly but not be a pushover, give time off, let them leave early for doctors appointments or even less important stuff if it was the only day they could do it. I'm not sure how I got there but there seemed to be a lot of mutual respect between me and my crew. I also use a lot of sarcasm and shit talking/joking as part of my management style. I figure I could yell at someone for screwing up or I could jokingly give them a hard time and they would know just as well that they messed up but that I'm not really all that pissed (unless it was a big deal, and then they did fear my wrath)...So, yeah, I think fairness would sum it up. Not make a big deal out of little things, make a big deal out of big things, not come down on them for things that are out of their hands, and not hover over them....basically I managed the way I would like to be managed (ie the opposite of all the shitty asshole managers I've had in the past.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyDeath View Post
    Never heard of enneagram or FIRO-B. I'm guessing that, like MB, they aren't cheap to take. I would like to know more about my "mutant" tendencies. Does it pretty much say that theres a personality that exists somewhere between INTP and ENTP? Or that you fluctuate between?
    A type in between INTP and ENTP??? Yeah there is one....

    ME!! And no you can't. It's mine all mine!!! Bwahahaha!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by GreyDeath View Post
    In what ways are you not typical INTP?
    I smile, laugh and stuff like that. (Oh and I can use these without cringing.)

    Seriously though I'm generally more organised than the typical INTP, less likely to spend my formative time in a library, active, not overly obsessed with perfection, more likely to experiment than pontificate given the right circumstances. IE a pretty fair INTP-ENTP mix.

    Personally I blame the parents
    Quote Originally Posted by GreyDeath View Post
    Not sure I understand the "negative feedback INTP." Do you mean I may be INTP due to negative feedback or that I respond to negative feedback?
    I'd actually change that conclusion due to your management style. You're most likely positive feedback which is indicated by your preference to take the mick to correct people's behaviour rather than truly upset them (though this isn't necessarily the case, the whole positive and negative thing being a bit hazy to me still).

    Basically positive feedback people classically desire and give positive feedback "you're good at that" "I think you did very well" etc. and negative feedback people are less dependant upon it. They are more motivated by the challenge... I think (they're odd).
    Quote Originally Posted by GreyDeath View Post
    As far as my management philosophy, I am pretty hands off, I made sure that my employees knew what was expected of them and any special info for the days project and sent them on their way, only checked up on them periodically to see if they were happy and everything was smooth and to lend them a hand, and otherwise just bounced around between them seeing how they were doing. I'd only get directly involved if there was a problem. I tried to always treat them fairly but not be a pushover, give time off, let them leave early for doctors appointments or even less important stuff if it was the only day they could do it. I'm not sure how I got there but there seemed to be a lot of mutual respect between me and my crew. I also use a lot of sarcasm and shit talking/joking as part of my management style. I figure I could yell at someone for screwing up or I could jokingly give them a hard time and they would know just as well that they messed up but that I'm not really all that pissed (unless it was a big deal, and then they did fear my wrath)...So, yeah, I think fairness would sum it up. Not make a big deal out of little things, make a big deal out of big things, not come down on them for things that are out of their hands, and not hover over them....basically I managed the way I would like to be managed (ie the opposite of all the shitty asshole managers I've had in the past.)
    Aside from you're actually able to shout at people, same as me. I only ever shout when upset and that's hardly expressing what's most important.

    I have to wonder, you're a colourful INTP... so why GreyDeath? Parody?

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    enneagram... it's available for free at Personality Tests and Tools
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post

    Seriously though I'm generally more organised than the typical INTP, less likely to spend my formative time in a library, active, not overly obsessed with perfection, more likely to experiment than pontificate given the right circumstances. IE a pretty fair INTP-ENTP mix.
    Sounds a lot like me, I tend to not be extremely organized in my personal life but I have some strangely high spatial reasoning skills (tested) and Im badass as a merchandiser (I can fit more shit on the shelves and more boxes in overstock than almost anyone else). Of all the things to excel at...real life Tetris.

    Otherwise, sounds nearly spot on...Ill check out the free test and see what it says, thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    I have to wonder, you're a colourful INTP... so why GreyDeath? Parody?
    Thanks, its partly parody but mostly comes from this:

    Grey (manga - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

    I'm a bit obsessed with the post-apocalyptic future

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyDeath View Post
    Sounds a lot like me, I tend to not be extremely organized in my personal life but I have some strangely high spatial reasoning skills (tested) and Im badass as a merchandiser (I can fit more shit on the shelves and more boxes in overstock than almost anyone else). Of all the things to excel at...real life Tetris.
    Oh I hate that game! If the controls weren't so awkward I may rock at it. Anyhow with me it's more leaning toward musical intelligence (whatever the hell that is). I can certainly fit a car in spaces most people wouldn't try.. the spaces are usually moving and irascible once moved past but meh.

    Quote Originally Posted by GreyDeath View Post
    Otherwise, sounds nearly spot on...Ill check out the free test and see what it says, thanks!
    Wait till the headache and then see if you still want to thank me. Matching up your enneagram to your MBTI can take a long time.
    Quote Originally Posted by GreyDeath View Post
    Thanks, its partly parody but mostly comes from this:

    Grey (manga - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

    I'm a bit obsessed with the post-apocalyptic future
    Ah THAT Grey. As soon as I saw your avatar I realised the reference. It just hadn't occurred before.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    Oooo a mutant INTP. Cool.

    BURN THE MUTANT!!!




    Have you tried the enneagram yet? I found it explained some of my differences with other INTPs. Combined with a pro test called FIRO-B it pretty much sums up why I'm more upbeat than your average INTP and yet am far far away from an ENTP.
    FIRO-B; great!
    I'm familiar with a temperament analysis that is based on the FIRO-B, and have been trying to compare them. Based on my score, I expected to come out as INTP, and many of the descriptions fit, but as I learned more about the cognitive functions, with a lot of input from others, as well as a Expanded Analysis Report, I seem to lean more to ENFP. ENTP and INFP were also possibilities, but more strongly NeFiTe. Only on the surface, and am not extraverted, but I seem that way online, being very enthusiastic. I attribute this to high wI and high eC.
    Some people still insist I'm more like an INTP.

    May I ask, what your FIRO scores are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyDeath View Post
    I wonder why the normally unemotional INTP types tend to have anger as their dominant emotion, Im constantly reading posts talking about getting pissed about this or that, and think, anger is an emotion too, wheres that coming from?
    *grin* INTPs aren't unemotional. We just fail at expressing them in a useful way lots of the time.

    And hi over here too.


    I... suppose. Yeah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nozflubber View Post
    I'd say the only thing that goes against the INTP Grain there is the enjoyment of leadership positions, but that doesn't mean you're not. The question about personality isn't always about behaviors, but HOW and WHY you do and enjoy those things.

    What did you like about management?
    Also not surprising if you couch it as leader vs. follower. I'd much rather be in charge than have to take orders all day. Meh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajah View Post
    *grin* INTPs aren't unemotional. We just fail at expressing them in a useful way lots of the time.
    This is one of the things about me that drives my wife nuts. She often misreads how happy I am about something, or how bothered something is making me because I keep up a pretty good poker face. It's not that I *don't* experience very strong emotions, I just don't show them in the way she expects people to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    FIRO-B; great!
    I'm familiar with a temperament analysis that is based on the FIRO-B, and have been trying to compare them. Based on my score, I expected to come out as INTP, and many of the descriptions fit, but as I learned more about the cognitive functions, with a lot of input from others, as well as a Expanded Analysis Report, I seem to lean more to ENFP. ENTP and INFP were also possibilities, but more strongly NeFiTe. Only on the surface, and am not extraverted, but I seem that way online, being very enthusiastic. I attribute this to high wI and high eC.
    Some people still insist I'm more like an INTP.

    May I ask, what your FIRO scores are?
    Oooo SNAP!!

    I have an expressed type as ENFP
    I'm still stoically INTP though.. just cheerfully so

    I do have my results (as given to me) but mixed in with enneagram analysis. Have a look if you like 9 to 5 at X Hub just beware the crossed thinking
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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