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    Quote Originally Posted by JustDave View Post
    Boredom? Just kidding.

    At this point it would be fair to mention that I might be a benevolent, well rounded INTJ.
    "benevolent INTJ" is a little of an oxymoron?

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    *shakes head* you and your lists aelan (I bet you have a really short list for my type!
    Yes. It goes "STPs: whatever".



    actually I adore INFJs
    Now, you have to beware of this 'un. She'll have you into a nice little corner before you know it, and chances are, you'll find yourself paying to be in that corner. She's evilly charming like that.


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    Where to begin?

    Benvolent INTJ.
    When I was younger I was an arrogant SOB. But as I grew older I experienced many things that helped me develop empathy.

    Naturally this clouds my true type. Am I truly an INFJ or am I an INTJ that has learned to empathize and thus care for others?

    As for Whatever adoring INFJs. I am going to assume that she is in fact an ESTP and therefore carefully consider all her comments ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustDave View Post
    Where to begin?

    Benvolent INTJ.
    When I was younger I was an arrogant SOB. But as I grew older I experienced many things that helped me develop empathy.

    Naturally this clouds my true type. Am I truly an INFJ or am I an INTJ that has learned to empathize and thus care for others?

    As for Whatever adoring INFJs. I am going to assume that she is in fact an ESTP and therefore carefully consider all her comments ...
    We do have softer INTJs here. I'd refer you to INTJMom, and Economica for examples of atypical () INTJs.

    The difference is in your decision-making I guess. You probably balance the head and the heart, to simplify it. But push comes to shove, which is it that rules though?

    Ahhh heck. You could put IxFJ too.

    And I wait for whatever to respond with a to your comment there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustDave View Post
    Where to begin?

    Benvolent INTJ.
    When I was younger I was an arrogant SOB. But as I grew older I experienced many things that helped me develop empathy.

    Naturally this clouds my true type. Am I truly an INFJ or am I an INTJ that has learned to empathize and thus care for others?
    Interesting perspective. If you are really unsure, I would recommend breaking it down into functions and function orders to see how you actually think. My personality has adapted a good deal over the last few years but I can't imagine being an INTJ and not knowing for sure (not to say that it isn't the case). And contrary to popular opinion, arrogant SOB isn't our only calling card.

    Quote Originally Posted by aelan
    "benevolent INTJ" is a little of an oxymoron?
    My first thought too, sadly.
    "You will always be fond of me. I represent to you all the sins you never had the courage to commit."

    Reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions, and can never pretend to any other office
    than to serve and obey them. - David Hume

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    you'd dare think that poor little me could be that calculating?

    hmmm.... he realizes I have a brain- curses!
    “Oh, we're always alright. You remember that. We happen to other people.” -Terry Pratchett

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    you'd dare think that poor little me could be that calculating?

    hmmm.... he realizes I have a brain- curses!
    As I understand the ESTP type, yes. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aelan View Post
    We do have softer INTJs here. I'd refer you to INTJMom, and Economica for examples of atypical () INTJs.

    The difference is in your decision-making I guess. You probably balance the head and the heart, to simplify it. But push comes to shove, which is it that rules though?
    That's is a reasonable guess. To answer your question, logic always trumps feelings and emotions.

    Problem solved. Good work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    Interesting perspective. If you are really unsure, I would recommend breaking it down into functions and function orders to see how you actually think. My personality has adapted a good deal over the last few years but I can't imagine being an INTJ and not knowing for sure (not to say that it isn't the case). And contrary to popular opinion, arrogant SOB isn't our only calling card.



    My first thought too, sadly.
    If Aelan's statement that the prefence I use when push comes to shove is indeed my true prefernce then I am a T all the way and thus an INTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustDave View Post
    As I understand the ESTP type, yes. Sorry.
    how do you come to this understanding of the ESTP?

    and I was being honest when I said that I adore INFJs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    how do you come to this understanding of the ESTP?

    and I was being honest when I said that I adore INFJs!
    Lots of reading and I am about 85% certain my best friend is an ESTP. So, much of my understanding of the ESTP is derived from my friendship with him.

    How have I decided he is an ESTP? He's bold, risk taking, loves tangible things (cars, playing the drums, bar hopping), relatively undisciplined and truly loves life.

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