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    Wait, what? Varelse's Avatar
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    Welcome.

    You may want to consider that many of your assumptions about God and Christianity will not be shared.

    Hmm...you don't know anything about INTPs? Well...I'm the kid sitting there at the youth rally praying for patience while the guy continually makes utter logical fallacies, the one who wishes we'd study Jeremiah for once. The person off reading Stephen Hawking or discussing various social trends, and laughing to myself over something in binary.


    Of course, if you recognized where I took my username from, that would tell you a quite a lot of that.
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    Hello!
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    hello. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by grasshoppersings View Post
    Well, I am grasshoppersings. I am a folk singer, song writer, poet, comedian, motivational speaker, storyteller, screenwriter for Jesus Christ. And I have just entered the cyber world of those four letter (MBTI) folks to bare my soul. This introvert (INFJ all the way) asks you: How do you like me now?
    Hello, grasshoppersings. Welcome to MBTI Central. Feel free to ask any questions you may have about MBTI or general psychology.

    You have a very long list of professions. But do consider toning down the evangelical portion a bit... there are people of different religious affiliations here, after all.

    You seem to have a good sense of humor so far. And you seem to understand a bit about MBTI already, which is a good start. So, where are you from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkw View Post
    Ah yes. I very well understand.

    I would assume that the passions differ from one INTP to the next. Generally speaking though, INTPs tend to be interested in subjects that are deep and highly theoretical.

    But what is the reason for your belief in a deity? (On a side note, is their a specific reason why you put "god" in all capital letters?)

    The "M" doesn't stand for anything. Quarks are somewhat involved, but not to a large extent. Of all subatomic particles, much more importance is placed on gravitons and sparticles.

    I am relatively confident that Jesus did not write the Bible, but rather others, such as Luke and Matthew. Could you elaborate what you mean by this?
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    Ok, this is what my bare soul looks like. I put my god in all caps GOD because I want to show honor and respect for my hero. In order for you to understand why I believe in Him, you would have to hear something about where He took me from & where He is taking me to.

    I really only knew about God from hearsay, stories from school, movies & such for most of my life. In Jan. 2004 that changed dramatically when I finally made the decision to start attending a church again, a Bible studying/memorizing/prophesying, Jesus centered, prayer focused church.

    I joined a Bible study group & people kept introducing themselves, then directly asking if I had accepted Jesus Christ as Lord & Savior of my life yet. I kept telling them No, because I sure didn't understand the need for it, being that my background was catholic & completely dysfunctional relationally in my family (not knowing what healthy looks like because of many generations of abandonment, abuse, addiction, alcoholism, anger, bad decisions, bitterness, curses, denial, desensitivity, fear, guilt, neglect, oppression, pornography, poverty, pride, rage, seduction, self-destruction, self-pity, shame, violence, witchcraft & occult involvement & every possible mental illness/demonized thinking imaginable that goes along with all this mess).

    But eventually (mainly because they wouldnt stop asking me that question) I started thinking that there must be something to this Jesus acceptance into your heart thing so one day I was reading my Bible in my studio apartment & pondering some thought about whatever page I had open at the time & all of a sudden I heard these screaming, angry, violent, intimidating, threatening voices telling me very hurriedly, loudly that I shouldn't be reading that book, that it was a bunch of fallacy lies/assumptions, that Jesus couldn't be trusted & neither could God, that everything about Christianity was a waste of time, etc. They were all screaming at me at once so I barely heard a fraction of all the venomous words they were shooting at me during that minute or so that it lasted.

    This freaked me out because 1) I knew it wasnt me thinking/proclaiming those thoughts, 2) I knew it was evil speaking because of the angry, hateful, bitter tone & VOLUME!, & 3) I never talk to myself in such a berating, ridiculing, threatening way like that. No, I never remember in my whole life experience ever hearing voices like that before so the whole thing was new, supernatural, & freaky. Standing up to the fear they were throwing my way & desperate for help, I prayed silently to God telling Him that I knew He was God, that I knew Jesus Christ is His Son, that I knew I needed to trust in Jesus to get to Heaven, BUT that I was afraid to trust Jesus so would you (God) please help me?

    About a week later I was in my apt. again & I got down on the floor prostrate & asked for forgiveness of my sins & accepted Jesus into my heart as Lord & Savior. This is when things started to change for me. People started coming into my life that taught me things & broke things off me through prayer. Dreams & visions & ideas started coming to me that I had never had before. I started reading the Bible more in depth & other books about spiritual warfare, like John Bunyan's The Holy War & Pilgrim's Progress.

    A few days had gone by & I had this vision that I was running as fast as I could into the darkness of a very dark street, away from something that was trying to kill me. My shoes were in tatters and barely hanging on but that wasn't going to stop me because my life was at stake & I wanted to LIVE.

    All of a sudden I realized there was someone running directly to my right beside my shoulder. I didnt know who it was but I tried to outrun him but I could not. I turned to look & recognized that it was Jesus. He said, You've been running a long time. You must be tired. Why don't you sit a while & rest? I thought this sounded great & since he would sit with me, I felt safe enough to sit beside him on the curb. I told him the reason for my fear & running, & all the bad things that had happened to me in my sorry life.

    He listened intently as I went on & on & on with my life story. I was dreading his response because in my past experiences people who tried to console me either downplayed my sorrow & pain or told me to just get over it instead of having empathy for me & I thought he would do something similar that would just crush me.

    Trust has never been an easy thing for me to do with anyone & even though he was now in charge of my life, I wasn't real sure about trusting. But he didn't say a word, he just looked into my eyes & I saw that he felt my pain, he totally understood my feelings, that he really cared about me, that he wanted to help me & that he was completely trustworthy & faithful. Oh, those eyes! Deep & compassionate & kind. This was a strange feeling for me. Trust? What is that? It just felt weird to me, alien almost, to get near to anyone.

    This was about all the intimacy I could deal with at the time so I looked at my wrist, said Well, I gotta go now, stood up & turned away from him so that I could take off running again into the darkness. Before I could take off he said, Wait, I brought something for you. I turned back around & he had a pair of new white running shoes held out for me in his outstretched hands. I took them into my hands & then he walked off opposite of the direction of darkness. I stood there thinking, Wow, what a perfect gift for me, a runner. How thoughtful! He was giving me exactly what I needed most & letting me decide for myself which direction I wanted to take off running.

    I was so surprised by his kindness & touched by it that (I am crying as I type this) I had to find him again. I have never known such kindness before & it was so attractive & warm. So I started walking in the direction that he went; I realized that running in the darkness is futile because you get lost & get nowhere quicker when you can't see where you're going. Turns out there are little signs/markers along his path that help me to know I am making progress. I took up running when I was a little squirt so we are talking about a 30+ year trek into the darkness of fear. It's a long walk back home but I am getting there. Keep moving forward is my marching motto.

    Many prayers & prophesies from Holy Spirit filled people have been spoken into me since then. I have had thousands, thousands of word curses broken off my life, generational curses broken off, witchcraft broken off, been awakened to the knowledge that most of what I learned growing up about family life was lies (see above list of not knowing what healthy looks like).

    God has reached down & showed me kindness by revealing Himself to me in His Word, the Bible & I am developing a personal relationship with Him.

    I like to put His name as GOD because He took what the world said was worthless & cleaned me up & spoke His destiny plans into my life. He treats me with dignity, kindness & warm love. He tells me I have value, that I am well loved, that I have special gifts & talents that will be used to help others, & that the world will be a better place because of the special work He has for me to do. My destiny will be a reality starting January 1, 2008. I am so excited, I feel like the bicentennial Fourth of July fireworks finale about to go off. My GOD will light the match in 2008 that starts the show a-flaming. Oohs & aahhs because of what GOD is doing for me.

    He gave me a new name, Grasshopper, and I heard Him say this audibly when I was at a prayer meeting weekend in Jan. 2005. I had gone to the weekend event with one question for God, Give me my new name like it says in Isaiah 62:2. When I was a sad, lonely, abused, poor, confused kid, I used to watch Kung Fu reruns with David Carradine. His Grasshopper childhood acceptance by the priestly Kung Fu school was something I longed for myself, feeling abandoned by my family & everyone else.

    GOD has taken me under His protective wing & I am in training now to fight the bad guys without a gun or sword. Instead, I have the Word of GOD and His mighty name as my weapons. Talk about an interesting duel. David & Goliath will pale in comparison to the fights I am about to start when I confront darkness in my work of setting people free to get to know the true GOD.

    I have completely sold-out my soul to GOD's plans for my life and I have no regrets. I went from completely rejected to absolutely accepted. I am really so surprised to be loved that it really makes me feel my love for my GOD even more intensely than I can put into words. He is so good!

    In Mar. 2007 I was asleep & GOD spoke to me saying, You will set the captives free. I jumped out of bed thanking Him for speaking such encouraging words into my life. Turns out that those He sets free from the deepest darkest dungeons will be used to go back in and set others free. GOD is so cool like that.

    I hope this sheds a little light on what this INFJ is into. Life is all of sudden exciting & this is my movie we are talking about! The above preview has not been rated by the motion picture association board but it is definitely family safe.

    As for toning down my "evangelical portion" I have to say that I am not here preaching to anyone. I am sharing my heart with someone who wanted to know why I believe in GOD. Being an INFJ, logic is not my strongest attribute but feeling is, which is why I must share how I feel about what GOD has done for me to change my life around.

    I understand that adults (which is what you all MBTICentral.com are) can decide for themselves what sounds right. The beauty of the American religious freedom and freedom of expression laws is that it is OK to feel offended by ideas that are opposite of your own. To censor speech that is non-violent is a bad thing. Those who are easily offended really haven't taken the time to consider their enemies complete thought process. You can't fully understand your own opinion until you understand your enemies. I wrote an essay once called Defending Your Enemies Right to Freedom of Speech and taught myself a great lesson about being open minded.

    But if you insist that my life story sounds too preachy, then this will be my last posting & I will completely withdraw from your website forum. I am not inviting any kind of argument about religion. I am just sharing my heart about how Jesus has made me feel like I am worth something to someone, instead of feeling worthless. However, I will not be afraid to share with someone who is interested why I am so in love with my GOD who has changed my life completely around for the better. Hope is a powerful thing that should not be hidden. Hope needs to be kept circulating. There are people who will die from a broken heart unless they hear a little hope.
    Nothing, nothing, nothing is impossible with GOD.

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    Calm down, please. I didn't mean you shouldn't discuss religion... in fact, I'm glad to hear that finding a faith has made your life so much better. Feeling worthless is an awful thing, and I'm glad you found your way out of it. I was just trying to explain that talking about religion continually might not be well received here... this is a forum about a psychological theory, and most of the people that come here are fairly skeptical, analytical people who tend not to like thinking about religion while they're here even if they're faithful. I just wanted to make sure you were aware of that.

    Now, we don't mind at all you telling us how God has changed your life. We wouldn't dream of begrudging you that, okay? We just ask that you don't interrupt the normal flow of conversation in the process. I have to apologize, we're all a bit xenophobic towards those vocal about faith since the last person who spoke about religion much caused a lot of turmoil here, and we just don't want that to happen again. There may have been an element of bias due to bad experiences in our assessments of your intent, and we apologize for that if that was the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    I have to apologize, we're all a bit xenophobic towards those vocal about faith since the last person who spoke about religion much caused a lot of turmoil here, and we just don't want that to happen again. There may have been an element of bias due to bad experiences in our assessments of your intent, and we apologize for that if that was the case.
    Out of mere curiosity, which user are you referring to here? I am somewhat sure I know who you are referring to, but I would just like this hunch of mine to be affirmed (I am rather OCD at times).
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