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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    This is something I have often thought but don't see others express very often, its a real pain in the bum when it comes to trying to "sell" myself in job interviews.

    Ha! Tell me about it! I had to force myself to learn how to speak up for my talents so I could do well in job interviews. Giving myself compliments tends to make me squirm inside. I sooooo prefer it coming from other people, and even then I tend to wonder if they really mean what they're saying -- part of me is terrified that maybe they only complimented me in order to be nice.

    So here's a related question for you all:

    Since it's often necessary in this world to project confidence in order to get what you want, how do you go about raising your own self-confidence level? Any favorite habits/words/phrases come to mind?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    I think that's because, as you said over here in the greatest topic ever, "Auxilliary Se is pretty visible in ISFPs because it's our preferred function for expressing ourselves in the world. We like to have an immediate impact on others just as much as the extraverts do.." So, the observable Se traits tend to be the ones focused on to differentiate SPs from other temperaments, so if we aren't showing much of those at any given time, people can confuse us for other types, like INFPs, because we have that same depth of feeling and we don't happen to be all INYOFACE at that particular time we're being observed.

    Yep! Expressing Fi looks like an expression of the Idealist temperament to all those Myers Briggs and Keirsey fans who haven't figured out that half of the NFs don't even prefer Fi anyway, and wouldn't be good at it if required to use it instead of the Fe they prefer. :rolli:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    Oh yeah, at my worst all of those things probably apply, luckily those feelings are usually short lived, however since leaving university they are becoming more common.
    Perhaps it is that need for purpose...not neccesarily "structure" but working for something beyond self focus that leads us to sense these negative aspects of our type preferences. I wonder too if our proximity to the other preferences (for example, I am just this side of IStj or ISfj) can intensify feelings in myself (in a negative situation) that you may not percieve as intensely, even though we share preferences generally.

    Being at university may have given you a fulfilling group of daily goals that kept you purposeful for others i.e. I've got to get this done and well for my prof, team, etc? Now it's just you? And the world seems to be a bit of a frustration for me as an ISfp. It seems like that is pretty typical for us generally.

    If I understand the posts that I have read correctly, what you are experiencing is perfectly in line with our preferences, and we have been there too with you (and may go there again)...so, you're normal! And I assume it is early days yet for you (in your 20's?) so with the help of this data and this forum you will be able to sidestep some pitfalls that might otherwise reinforce these negative perceptions. And that is just plain good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Yes, I've seen all of them in ISFP friend.
    Also fellow ISFPs, I cannot state strongly enough how much of a help our Heart has been in guiding me along the path to MBTI understanding. Perhaps it is her ISFP friendship that gives her particular insight...Hearts kindness and patience have allowed me to find enrichment in a number of areas I may not have discovered otherwise. She is certainly one of the primary reasons I return to this forum...so blame her.
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    let me just first say I love ISFPs. Definitely one of the types I admire the most.
    My younger brother is an ISFP and I aways get the sense that he doesnt think enough of himself or his abilities. Its hard to get him to take a compliment seriously. He is great at many things and his sense of humour pwns mine and my INTP brothers but he is always saying that he is dumb and doesnt have a lot to offer. I wish you guys had just a bit more ego to understand how cool you are. In this cutthroat world we need people like you. You make others feel comfortable and accepted. In short ISFPs rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuro View Post
    let me just first say I love ISFPs. Definitely one of the types I admire the most.
    My younger brother is an ISFP and I aways get the sense that he doesnt think enough of himself or his abilities. Its hard to get him to take a compliment seriously. He is great at many things and his sense of humour pwns mine and my INTP brothers but he is always saying that he is dumb and doesnt have a lot to offer. I wish you guys had just a bit more ego to understand how cool you are. In this cutthroat world we need people like you. You make others feel comfortable and accepted. In short ISFPs rock.
    You're so right. I have not been trumpeting my own awesomeness nearly enough lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarah View Post

    So here's a related question for you all:

    Since it's often necessary in this world to project confidence in order to get what you want, how do you go about raising your own self-confidence level? Any favorite habits/words/phrases come to mind?


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    I often use visualization. Practice and visualization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    I often use visualization. Practice and visualization.

    Yeah, those help me too, especially visualizing myself doing something I want to do succesfully, so I have that mental picture cemented in my mind. I also have given "meaning" to certain objects at work and at home that I use as symbolic reminders that I don't have to live up to my worst fears, and that I've successfully done what I've wanted to do before. For some reason, I'm rarely encouraged by my past successes -- I have a tendency to tell myself that failures point to flaws in my character but that successes must be constantly proven again and again in order for them to count. (I'm guessing this is what Beebe means by the "bad parent" function, and for ISFPs that would be introverted Sensing.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarah View Post
    I have a tendency to tell myself that failures point to flaws in my character but that successes must be constantly proven again and again in order for them to count.

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    I've been thinking about this and your previous question.
    I've found thinking about it this way helps:

    I learn. If you invest your ego that way nobody can take that away not even you. Even if you screw up you learn. So think I am a learner.

    Keep fluid. Do things because you like to. Objective standards in performance have there place. But always think I do this because I like to. Nobody can say what you do and don't like. Only you can.

    I am responsible. Responsibility looks forward blame looks back. So taking responsibility means to me keeping my eye on the objective and being fluid in approach. The balls in my end of the court so to speak.

    In MBTI jargon.
    Invest in values you control. Fi. Subjective values.
    Be fluid in your approach to the world. Se.

    Hope that makes sense.

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