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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    In fact, I find that when I ask them questions, they almost look at me with a look of scorn on their face because I am forcing them to communicate..
    It's because we are introverted thinkers, and secondarily, extraverted sensors. So, we prefer to not communicate our thoughts, and instead focus on our environment. By asking them a question, you are forcing them to set both of those tendencies aside. This is exemplified with our Ni, and our irritation shows more because of our Fe.

    Plus if you are a strong extravert, then they probably just dislike you to begin with. No offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyLazarus View Post
    Why would they need words when they can just punch a guy in the nose and draw symbols with his blood to convey their thoughts?
    Yeah anyway, now that you mention it that is my primary method of communication, how did you know?

    But seriously, I text my one friend in my free time more than i talk to him in school, and we have almost every class, as well as our lunch period together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Yeah anyway, now that you mention it that is my primary method of communication, how did you know?

    But seriously, I text my one friend in my free time more than i talk to him in school, and we have almost every class, as well as our lunch period together.
    Are you pee buddies aswell ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    It's not a fact...just a hunch...I believe a high Se indicates an abundance of testosterone hormone in the body...hence the athletic build, promiscuity, aggressiveness, thrill-seeking and impulsiveness observed in those with high Se (including women)... That physiology gives them the ability to attune with and manipulate the Se layer of the physical environment...
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    Hmmm, perhaps because Sensors, in general, tend to work out more you might, MIGHT, have a point. Also, i noticed that my sensing developed from only a slight preference to a very strong one since I started working out a few weeks ago. Mabey that gives some plausibility to your idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Hmmm, perhaps because Sensors, in general, tend to work out more you might, MIGHT, have a point. Also, i noticed that my sensing developed from only a slight preference to a very strong one since I started working out a few weeks ago. Mabey that gives some plausibility to your idea?
    Yes, perhaps it may signify a relatively larger room\potential for growth in that area when\if consciously trained... I've been working out for more than 1.5 years doing primary lifts like deadlift, squat, bench, military press etc...I've gotten much stronger than I was but my muscle size has not exploded like that of an ectomorph mesomorph person...

    However, this should theoretically mean that being an Se-inf, I should have some potential to develop that niche... How would this work for people who don't have Se in their first 4 functions stack I wonder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    I mean, I am the inverse type of you, so it's no surprise that this feels kind of alien to me. I totally am on board with most communication being nonverbal but without words, I see it as inconsistent and hard to read. Further, a lot of the time it's a strain to read. I'll do it (I have to) but without words to go along with things, it's like eating a cake with no flour; an important piece is missing.
    Non verbal ques are more important than verbal overall doesn't matter what type you are. On another note I dated an ENFJ and she always wanted me to express how I felt about everything it drove me bananas. At the same time what drove her nuts was constantly trying to figure out what I was thinking. So there seems to be some kind of clash between the two types in that regard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    What do you learn of a person through stuff like a massage? I might be able to pick up a few things, but not much. TBH, people like this actually make me uncomfortable (well, they can anyway). Not that that's a bad thing, it just triggers a stress response cause I don't get it.
    You don't learn anything really, I just wanted to express my natural talents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    If it's any consolation, I'm gay and don't give a shit .

    It's the context that matters. The vast majority of the time it's not meant to harm anyone.
    Wow that's funny, so the Fe dom doesn't care if you use the word, but the Fe aux does. That's funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by badger055 View Post
    I don't usually do that unless you have caught my attention in a bad way. That's when my killer instinct comes out. Otherwise I usually avoid eye contact. I think that might be more common with 8s?
    So what should I do when an ISTP gives me this stare down? Is this like some type of test or something that they are giving me?

    @Urarienev

    I have had the same experience with ISTP's in particular as well.

    Their Ti just doesn't want to waste time on the unnecessary.

    Also, if you are asking them questions, they can feel some sort of "pressure" to rebel or resist against it. The thinking being, that the person posing the question, is trying to take an authoritative stance...They don't like to be controlled. (This is from what I've gathered.)
    Well you are also a thinking dom, and a Te dom at that. Do you view conversation as a meaningless waste of time?

    It took me a long time to figure out why my gay friends didn't like that word being used that way. (They could not convince me with one solid reason not to be able to say what I wanted...)

    But the thing is that it's being used to replace the word "weak" if you boil it down.

    And why is being weak so bad? It's because then you would be perceived to take on qualities of females. It's like a double whammy. It's attacking gay people cause they're feminine (and god forbid. Nothing's worse than a guy being feminine. (obviously joking)) And it's attacking females cause they're seen as the weakest gender.

    That's just the thought process behind it...don't know if it matters.

    Anyways I think "lame" is a much better fit.
    Well I don't know if the word gay is replacing the word lame. I think that gay is replacing the word effeminate if you ask me. However, you still raise an excellent point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    It's because we are introverted thinkers, and secondarily, extraverted sensors. So, we prefer to not communicate our thoughts, and instead focus on our environment. By asking them a question, you are forcing them to set both of those tendencies aside. This is exemplified with our Ni, and our irritation shows more because of our Fe.

    Plus if you are a strong extravert, then they probably just dislike you to begin with. No offense.
    The only way that I can generally get an ISTP to like me is through my sick and twisted sense of humor. They generally like that, but hate everything else about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    So what should I do when an ISTP gives me this stare down? Is this like some type of test or something that they are giving me?
    They are probably reading you and yea it might be a test. I don't know what can you do? He's just looking at you. Try not to care I guess and just do whatever it is you were doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    So what should I do when an ISTP gives me this stare down? Is this like some type of test or something that they are giving me?
    I know this wasn't directed towards me, but I find this really funny.

    I actually wonder what the stare down would feel like if I were a guy. But since I'm not, and I only know male ISTP's, I always took the stare down as like a sexual kinda thing or something. Funny

    Well you are also a thinking dom, and a Te dom at that. Do you view conversation as a meaningless waste of time?
    I would say that it is not a waste of time. But there's a catch. There can't be small talk. And it has to be with someone that is up to speed with what I'm saying. I am quite impatient when people don't even try to understand what I'm saying.

    I find that A LOT of what is said at my job...is small talk. Which is tedious and yes, it's a meaningless waste of time. I like to get right into the subject, and not tip toe around all the empty body language, or the phrases that people have to use just to get the real heart of a matter.

    So the repetitive requirements of some of the socializing that takes place between people annoys me.

    Well I don't know if the word gay is replacing the word lame. I think that gay is replacing the word effeminate if you ask me. However, you still raise an excellent point.
    Yea, it was really bad when my freind just kept wanting me to stop saying that, and I would still ask him "why." He's an ISFJ and he was only explaining the way it feels not the concept and thought process behind it. I'm glad I can finally understand why people like others to politically correct now though.
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