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    Default Do SPs develop more personal confidence than other types?

    I've had people say to me that I'm very confident or that they wish they were as confident as me, or professors telling me I was an especially confident student, but I'm not totally arrogant, I don't think I'm better necessarily or even the best.

    I just have confidence in who I am and what I think.

    In fact I hate arrogant people a whole lot, and have had people tell me that one of the reasons that they like me..is because I'm HUMBLE.

    I tend to have a pretty relative sense of proportion of myself to others; that is being confident in what I can do, but being humble about what I cannot. Isn't that normal?

    I also tend mildly toward socialism (though not completely) in believing most people deserve a fair shake and are products of their circumstances, while still giving some credence or reward (though not over-much) to things like ambition and personal responsibility.

    I see myself as having a good balance of the two. I'm thinking this is because of my parental figures, a grandfather who was a bizarre male feminist, holding women in traditional sexual roles in dresses and hairstyles and polite behavior, but also wanting to teach me math and lawn-mowing. Then his wife also outwardly having the gender role of long fingernails and jewelry who kept house and so forth, but being a very assertive, aggressive, independent woman.

    So in my home life I was actually just very fortunate to get mixed messages about gender roles, and even my mother who is extremely feminine is also in other ways very confident and assertive...but she's also an ESFP.

    I remember reading somewhere that Se doms (ESxPs) actually have "masculine" personalities, though a lot of women researched in MBTI are ESFPs.

    Does Se give people a natural earthly grip of confidence, something about being "here and now" or knowing how to position your body to do things or maneuver the physical environment to your benefit give one a certain confidence or bravery despite experience?

    I've noted that for example a lot of SP writers have been just ridiculously brave in living out id experiences and then writing about them, despite discouragement from elders or lack of money.


    I'm actually not arrogant, and I've even suffered from social anxiety in my childhood past, but people overall tend to view me as confident. Even as a child I was placed in the front row at dance recitals, et al.

    Is this Se? Is this the appearance of confidence, or bravery at any price?

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    I would say the functions blind you to possibilities and uncertainty. Anyone would be bold if they saw a single tangible path devoid of risk and negative consequences.

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    But what about people who proceed on to paths full of risk and negative consequences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    But what about people who proceed on to paths full of risk and negative consequences?
    Are you referring to SP's? If you are then I would repeat my first point that the most part Se is blind to them. The far reaching consequences are never assessed. The bold and the brave live a path where they are indifferent to the risks; either they are aloof and do not think about them or they know of them yet do not fear the consequences. One who sees many possibilities - including the ones which suggest they are wrong anre not going to be confident. There is too much risk and following the potential butterfly effect outwards is only going to compound hesistancy.

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    Um........maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    I just have confidence in who I am and what I think.
    You think? you have zero confidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    You think? you have zero confidence.
    That's not true. I'm not sure you know me well enough to even say such an absurd thing.

    Be careful kitten, your panties are showing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standuble View Post
    Are you referring to SP's? If you are then I would repeat my first point that the most part Se is blind to them. The far reaching consequences are never assessed. The bold and the brave live a path where they are indifferent to the risks; either they are aloof and do not think about them or they know of them yet do not fear the consequences. One who sees many possibilities - including the ones which suggest they are wrong anre not going to be confident. There is too much risk and following the potential butterfly effect outwards is only going to compound hesistancy.
    I equate a certain amount of hesitancy with death.

    I'm not exactly reckless, but I do proceed often and without caution.

    I'm not trying to brag or anything, I'm asking a legitimate question because I've had people ask me things like "how do you do this" or "how do you live this way" or "how did you even get into this" and to me it as natural as breathing, like there isn't another alternative.

    I wonder what separates people like me from some other kinds of people, and I do wonder how much it has to do with Se.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    I equate a certain amount of hesitancy with death.
    My favorite ENTJ ex-ranger manager told me the primary cause of death in battle is second guessing your intent, likened it to an animal stopping in the middle of the road to consider turning back.

    To that degree, I concur. I've heard it expressed from other Se types around here they have no fear of being wrong, it's only a correction to the right path. I know I have zero ego regarding the interjection of my perception.

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    SPs get their confidence from adjusting their goals low enough for them to meet them.

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