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    I don't know... there are a lot of ISFP/ENFP/INFJ mix ups with self typing, and I think it's because of the likeliness of ISFP's to want to utilize intuition more, and of ENFP's and INFJ's desire for sensually/aesthetically pleasing experiences. However, I've also known an ESFJ who thought she was an INTP. The ESxJ's also have tertiary Ne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zago View Post
    By definition, no. ISTPs have tertiary N, making them no more or less inclined toward intuition than anyone else with tertiary N.
    Keep in mind, ISTP's are famous for having the Ti/Ni loop, which as i have observed with myself brings them both into an even plane, probably why we often mistype as INTJ's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Keep in mind, ISTP's are famous for having the Ti/Ni loop, which as i have observed with myself brings them both into an even plane, probably why we often mistype as INTJ's.
    It's a fairly common mistype, and I've witnessed it in several people I know.
    ISTP's Se can simulate a pseudo-Te in the Ti-Se mechanism, meaning that they might appear heavy Te when it is actually Se in overdrive. The difference is that the ISTP will be much more aggressive and will make sense of the data they are provided and decide on what is rationalized internally. Usually the asshole-ish people that seem like INTJ can sometimes be ISTPs with a better grip on Ni, and in Socionics, the ISTj Hidden Agenda Ni will sometimes inflate Ni to a power much like the Dominant function. (Though, it is often called the 'Pathetic' Hidden Agenda, so usually it is seen as amusing by Ego block Ni users)

    I've heard before that ISTPs are the most intuitive sensor, but honestly, I think the ISFP is much more intuitive-inclined by nature, especially when the ISFP is a Type 9 (one of its more common enneatypes), which completely stifles and confuses aux. Se, meaning that the Fi-Ni mechanism will develop and kick into place as a crutch for the ambivalent, hesitant Type 9 Se. I am also of the opinion that certain individuals in a type may be more intuitive than others, meaning that there could be an ESTP with exceptional introverted intuition compared to that of a poorly developed ENTJ, for instance.

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    I think that ultimately it will vary from sensor to sensor, depending on how well-developed and oft-used their intuition functions are--I don't think there is any one SP type that is more intuitive, although it seems the introverted ones generally mistype as N types more frequently than their ESP counterparts.
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    Feeling is closer in line with intuition, as is introversion, and as such, I would say ISFx types to be closest to something resembling an intuitive type.

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    What do you mean by the most intuitive sensor? That is to say, which form of intuition are you referring to in regards to the functions?

    In all actuality, it depends what you mean by intuitive, Ni or Ne? IMO, the most Ni sensor would have to be ISFP, while the most Ne sensors would have to be the ESxJ's. ISTP's like ISFP's also possess tertiary Ni, however, they would not be the most Ni of the two ISP's because their Ti seems to rely on deductive reasoning, which I see as opposite/ greatly differing from Ni's inductive reasoning(at least this is how I somewhat think of Ni, but I could be wrong as I've also seen Te referred to as inductive reasoning), as well as being too much a straight line of reasoning, which isn't something I see intuition in either form as being.

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    No, ISFPs are.

    Both have tertiary Ni, but dominant Fi works better (more readily, less conflictedly) with Ni than does dominant Ti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    No, ISFPs are.

    Both have tertiary Ni, but dominant Fi works better (more readily, less conflictedly) with Ni than does dominant Ti.
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    I have an ISTP friend that I thought was INTJ at first just because she is so good at deducing the end result of events, and how clearly she sees patterns. However, she is far too mechanically inclined and in the moment present to be such a type.

    ISFPs come close as well, but I haven't had as much experience with them for some reason. Ani Difranco would be a good example of one however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    I have an ISTP friend that I thought was INTJ at first just because she is so good at deducing the end result of events, and how clearly she sees patterns. However, she is far too mechanically inclined and in the moment present to be such a type.

    ISFPs come close as well, but I haven't had as much experience with them for some reason. Ani Difranco would be a good example of one however.
    I always think of David Bowie as a good ISFP example. He could easily be mistaken for an intuitive, at first glance.
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