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    Quote Originally Posted by Il Morto Che Parla View Post
    I know what you mean.

    To be honest I don't see @RaptorWizard as INTP for exactly the same reason - his interests, avatar etc. would all point to "steretypical INTP" int he most extreme, exaggerated sense, but the "style" makes me think otherwise.

    One thing maybe influencing me, he uses lots of elaborate language, but I don't know what it is conveying. With an N, I find the idea is usually more complicated than the language, with RW, vice versa.

    I think an SP would be more likely to use wordplay, this is why they can make great artists like rappers/poets.

    Same with the avatars, I think they are pretty visually creative, not leaving much to the imagination, whereas with a N, usually the problem is the opposite, they would be more likely to have an avatar where it's hard to know what the point is meant to be, because it's part of some whole narrative in their heads which they can't really explain. With RW, it's just like more, what you see is what you get.

    So yeah that's my reaosning, maybe I'm talking rubbish though.

    In any case I think we can say, that RW is unlike NT or SP I have ever interacted with online or met RL, so maybe Typology is not the best tool to use to analyze this guy. That sounds harsh but I don't mena it that way, often he cracks me up and I would def go for a beer with him.

    Alternatively he may be ENTP and fuckin with us all.

    This makes zero logical sense. Being an intuit, I'm sure you can figure out why.


    He's certainly an intuitive dominant. I've always thought ENTP or INTJ, hard to discern the two at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jontherobot View Post
    This makes zero logical sense. Being an intuit, I'm sure you can figure out why.
    It makes perfect sense. Being a Sensor I'm sure you can figure out why.


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    The very reason why @RaptorWizard can't pick his type is from considering all the options. Also, an INTJ would most likely at least try to come to a conclusion (closure) faster than he has. ENTP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Il Morto Che Parla View Post
    It makes perfect sense. Being a Sensor I'm sure you can figure out why.

    Maybe in some topsy-turvey Ne-land.


    You can't say you don't understand the convection of thought and then proceed to say the underlying concepts are more basic than the language being used...


    Though I get it, he is verbose in his musings. Just thought I'd pick something physically tangible out of your analysis, seeing as opinions are just that and such.

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    I read in a Neuroscience of Personality book how INTJ and ENTP both have high use of the Process Manager brain function, which deals with brainstorming and developing ideas. It said those who use this function a lot may be very indecisive as they consider all the options before forming a conclusion. Based on this, it would indeed seem ENTP and INTJ are 2 good choices.

    The reason I believe myself as of right now to be INTJ rather than ENTP is because of my thought processing style. I can see why my behaviors on the surface may not look too much like an INTJ to all observors, since some are probably a bit colder and more judicious than I am, but all of my thoughts focus on cosmology; finding our place in the world and discovering our purpose - and even seeing the origin of the world and how it will evolve. I will also really push the limits of my ideaologies into plans of action to realize goals. I believe this to be NiTe vision and transformation, of course I could be wrong.

    Feel free folks to continue in developing arguments of your own, and I would actually be more interested if they disagree with mine, so then I could challenge them and see a new point of view, but should you agree, it would at least give me a better sense of confidence in my current typing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    but as gregarious and energized as I can be, I am not an extravert in my natural state of being, as it takes a special focus from me to effectively communicate with people and derive energy from it in unfamiliar situations.
    A cognitive extravert simply draws mental energy from ideas sourced from outside their own minds. If you're naturally attuned to concepts outside your mind, and if you feel at ease dealing with them, that's a good sign of congnitive extraversion. Social extraversion is a separate measure. As a very cognitively extraverted ENFP, I test weak social introvert or social ambivert.

    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    all of my thoughts focus on cosmology; finding our place in the world and discovering our purpose - and even seeing the origin of the world and how it will evolve. I will also really push the limits of my ideaologies into plans of action to realize goals.
    What I get from this is that you're a very strong N dominant with a T flavor - you want a complete conceptualization of the universe. But notice your language: finding place in the world. Discovering purpose. Pushing limits. The quote in your sig - make yourself grow [...] beyond measure, free yourself. Your wording is all about stretching out and letting go into the All, not distilling inward like Ni into the Singular. (Yes, of course, they are one in the same, and the goal of all N doms is The One.) But look at your username, your member title, your signature, your avatar. Look at all the complex, theoretical, symbolic information shoved in those little spaces. Look at the variety of it and the expansiveness of it. Your posts themselves expanding content to include more and more related content, instead of honing into points. There is nothing Ni about the way you present information, which is a good clue to how you process information. Your wall-o-texts are also pretty classically N-Ti.

    I'm still pushing ENTP

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    Edit: I worked out what you meant now. Problem is I expressed myself badly in the original post you quoted and then didn't pick up on the mistake you were referring to.

    What I meant is that at first you look at it, and just say "wtf", but the times when you do manage to get to the essence of the post, all the elaborate words were not really necessary at all to the point being made.

    But actually I think I was unfair on SP's there.

    N's can be just as guilty of this. The only difference is the motivation. They will do it because they have an imprecise concept which they are therefore unable to convey, and cover it up in jargon, wrongly believing they are saying something novel.

    I think an SP would do it more for stylistic reasons. Or it it's tertiary Ni it would just seem less convincing maybe? In the same way that an Ni dom using Se wordplay would just seem less developed at it.

    For some reason I just get the feel with @RaptorWizard that it is stylistic and not because his ideas are so out there in themselves. But I'm a big minority on that one so who knows?

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    Are you healthy right now (no stress or anything)? A tertiary loop could explain a lot of your problems.

    Remember that ENTPs and INTJs have the exact same function order (N, T, F, S), only with reversed attitudes, so they will indeed look similar at times.

    On another note, it would be ironic if you are indeed ENTP, considering the thread that you based this one off.

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    I am actually in a much healthier state of being right now then I have been in years. Anyway, just to be a repititious robot and reference Neuroscience of Personality again, both ENTP and INTJ also have high use of the Precise Speaker brain function, which deals with the spoken and written word. Those who have it well-developed can compose complex word structures and fuse them together in a fancy way. Just like Il Morto is saying, this can indeed provide an illusion of greater reasoning and deductive abilities than the user may in actuality have. The flaw in his argument though is that not a single SP had high use of Precise Speaker, at least according to Dario Nardi's EEG research. Indeed 3 of the 4 SPs (except ESFP) had above-average use of Precise Speaker, but none of them had it quite as high as ENTP and INTJ, who had it at the top.

    Skylights actually made a very interesting argument for ENTP, and even showed a genuine care and passion for the material I have created on this forum; although I cannot immediately conclude her typing argument is exactly right, but I am sure there are some critical parts I can use from her analysis. The main point I guess was how I am always evolving my material in an outward form of development that really broadens the horizon, rather than extrapolating back to the root of primal simplicity. The reason I still believe this to be NiTe rather than NeTi is because I am trying to form a vision of a future achievement and then find a direction to reach it, and this requires outlining all contingent possibilities. A heightened awareness from the top of the mountain can aid us in seeing the shining path from afar, and then taking the necessary steps on the journey to reach this destination. I believe this to be INTJ masterminding rather than ENTP inventing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Il Morto Che Parla View Post
    I know what you mean.

    To be honest I don't see RaptorWizard as INTP for exactly the same reason - his interests, avatar etc. would all point to "steretypical INTP" int he most extreme, exaggerated sense, but the "style" makes me think otherwise.

    One thing maybe influencing me, he uses lots of elaborate language, but I don't know what it is conveying. With an N, I find the idea is usually more complicated than the language, with RW, vice versa.

    I think an SP would be more likely to use wordplay, this is why they can make great artists like rappers/poets.

    Same with the avatars, I think they are pretty visually creative, not leaving much to the imagination, whereas with a N, usually the problem is the opposite, they would be more likely to have an avatar where it's hard to know what the point is meant to be, because it's part of some whole narrative in their heads which they can't really explain. With RW, it's just like more, what you see is what you get.

    So yeah that's my reaosning, maybe I'm talking rubbish though.

    In any case I think we can say, that RW is unlike NT or SP I have ever interacted with online or met RL, so maybe Typology is not the best tool to use to analyze this guy. That sounds harsh but I don't mena it that way, often he cracks me up and I would def go for a beer with him.

    Alternatively he may be ENTP and fuckin with us all.
    Good points. When I perceive a person's type, it's more because of the way they act and appear to me: online, I can't do that as all I'm seeing is text. Your analysis is better than mine in any case. All that I know for certain is that he's not INTJ (unless, as you said, he's "fuckin with us all").
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