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[Se] Se perks?

RaptorWizard

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Don't forget you get a hot body and access to many sexually desirable mates

The hottest Se user on the planet or erm in the galaxy:
 

UniqueMixture

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^tell yourself whatever you want, but a lot of women especially who are "professionally hot" because they're models, strippers, or even just in sales for high end clientele are esfps ime for the dudes look at guys like arnold etc
 

Istbkleta

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I don't think gluttony is related to Se.

You'd be surprised ... Think Elvis or Marlon Brando or Rutger Hauer.

Thanks for the nice words. It's not considered cool in the business world unless your name is Donald Trump or Silvio Berlusconi.

Threads like this are just strange. Se doesn't exist in a vacuum.

How much easier would college be if you were aroused by abstract data.
 

Il Morto Che Parla

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You'd be surprised ... Think Elvis or Marlon Brando or Rutger Hauer.

Thanks for the nice words. It's not considered cool in the business world unless your name is Donald Trump or Silvio Berlusconi.

lol I'm not being kind, just honest.

I think the typical corporate drone world favors J's over P's anyway. But I don't know if NP's have an advantage over SP's in those jobs, I'd say probably SP's have a slight advantage as better eye for detail, better presented, more "realistic", less likely to get distracted.

I think both SP's and NP's can do well on the entrepreneurial/technical side, though with a different emphasis. For a P in general, it's all about finding your niche and becoming a specialist in that, rather than the typical job that just requires general "common sense" and organization.

I know lots of SP's doing pretty well for themselves in finance, sales etc. - though this favors STPs and not SFP's. I would say ESTP is the typical "salesman".

Se looks awesome to me...I watch my XSFP sister and son with envy at times. I often try to one-up them with my Ne but there is this slight lag time thing and I'm never quite as sharp they are.

:cry:

Very true. My football ("soccer") team are nearly all SP's, and they just think I am a bit slow (in an affectionate way I hope, lol), because they are too quick and witty. I might think of a 100 times clever comeback, but 1 minute too late when they already cracked 30 more jokes.:doh:
 

violet_crown

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This is such an odd thread to me. It would never occur to me to hate any one of my functions, especially not my dom or auxiliary.
 

cascadeco

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Se is great for self-preservation. If you're camping out in the mountains you can think about meaning of the universe all you like but it won't do you a whole lot of good if you don't notice the mountain lion that's stalking you. Like a lot of things we evolved with to keep us alive, modern society downplays the usefulness of Se, but it's just as relevant when your driving a car or doing some other thing that requires focus on the task at hand and immediate surroundings.

Very true.

Yeah... to the OP, I wouldn't have listed those as directly tied to Se. (Just as a simple example, re. the gluttony aspect, there are many who can use food as more of a comfort, habit, or temporary distraction/fix... which goes across all types)

Se I usually first associate with strong in-the-moment awareness and dexterity of thought; ability to immediately apply and execute. I think that's pretty cool in and of itself. This is probably more directly applicable to Se-doms, but even Se-aux has a nice adaptability and practicality/ no-nonsense element that I can definitely appreciate.
 

Istbkleta

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This is such an odd thread to me. It would never occur to me to hate any one of my functions, especially not my dom or auxiliary.

You are reading too deep. It's not hate. It's a search for meaningful application in today's business world. Apart from hustling and "eye candy".
As an ENTJ you might have a unique perspective on how developing Se has helped you beyond clothes and the gym.
 

gromit

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Some Te people tell me stuff along these lines BUT I see THEM succeed and reach meaningful, long-term goals.

You can do that too. Functions/MBTI describe some aspects of a person. But reaching a meaningful long-term goal, if that is something you truly value, I don't see why you cannot work toward that and eventually accomplish it.

Sounds like you're limiting yourself based on theoretical constructs.
 

violet_crown

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You are reading too deep. It's not hate. It's a search for meaningful application in today's business world. Apart from hustling and "eye candy".

Hate was probably too strong a word, but there's definite disdain in the tone of your previous posts.

As an ENTJ you might have a unique perspective on how developing Se has helped you beyond clothes and the gym.

Nah, not really. Se deliciously, delightfully is. You start weighing down the branches when you put too many ornaments on the tree. :wink:

ETA:

Some Te people tell me stuff along these lines BUT I see THEM succeed and reach meaningful, long-term goals.

Oh this is your issue. What stops you from doing the same?
 

Il Morto Che Parla

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You are reading too deep. It's not hate. It's a search for meaningful application in today's business world. Apart from hustling and "eye candy“

Don't underestimate the power of hustling well and looking good. I'd say an SP has an advantage over many in those areas (though Ti helps).

In any case I would ask you, is it rather that your values don't like the way a business would ask you to apply your Se, as opposed to them not having any use for it?
 

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strong se users are usually your dilfy, silver foxy men and milfy mothers.
 

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I gots some serious se envy... I imagine I'd find it boring if it all just was tho... Perhaps... Maybe
 

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How much easier would college be if you were aroused by abstract data.

Not much, really, because most data is presented in a non-symmetrical format and you have to construct a theoretical paradigm to fit it neatly into, iron out all the kinks, and rework that structure every single time you happen upon another bit of information. It's like constantly translating into another language and back in your head. Maybe it's more interesting but it's also more time-consuming and your framework isn't always right because it sacrifices accuracy for the sake of symmetry.

Based on my ISTP brother, Se perks:
- Being natively in tune with the atmosphere / environment
- Having exceptionally good balance, both mentally and physically
- Being able to fluidly transition from one state to the next
- Being able to understand, capture, enjoy, and reproduce purity of sensation without conceptual trappings
- Excelling at improvisation in almost any area
- Living in the here-and-now

EJCC said:
This is the impression I had, of Se. Seems to be the most pretense-free, of all the functions.

Seconded.
 

COLORATURA

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Se is great for self-preservation. If you're camping out in the mountains you can think about meaning of the universe all you like but it won't do you a whole lot of good if you don't notice the mountain lion that's stalking you. Like a lot of things we evolved with to keep us alive, modern society downplays the usefulness of Se, but it's just as relevant when your driving a car or doing some other thing that requires focus on the task at hand and immediate surroundings.
I think it is irritating that modern life often forces people to repress their energy but sports are always there to help balance that out. Also as far as gluttony/greed/etc. goes, throughout most of human history (and indeed in many parts of the world today) we have not as a species had things so far under control that these could become common problems. I think the best thing is to recognize the basic drives that can lead such issues and direct them towards productive ends, as well as counter-balance them with a healthy concern for and generosity towards others.

Yes. I could use that...ALOT.
 

roastingmallows

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I love Se. I notice things a lot of people miss, and I accept sensory data as it is in its raw form, allowing me to remain objective (until I put it past my Fi at least!) to concrete details. I see things as they are, not as they should be, could be, or once were. I think on my feet and am a good problem solver. I am naturally coordinated and I believe I might have an increased ability to truly enjoy sensations for what they are.
 
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