User Tag List

12 Last

Results 1 to 10 of 19

  1. #1
    Senior Member KDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    8,263

    Default SPs Losing Their Nerve

    Anyone else experience this? Are you forever a wild child? Do you reassess your life in light of consequences and people (or yourself) getting hurt? I think I've become kind of a square since my 20s/mid 20s. I might've taken the cake at one point in taking risks, but a lot of sides of life have no place for me anymore. In a way I envy people who keep it up, but I'm sort of gunshy. Several of my friends from highschool are dead (violent deaths). I made it out, but psychologically, none of that helped. Hell, even athletic stuff has taken a downturn. Awhile back, I smacked the street skateboarding, lost my 4 front teeth.. It took me awhile to even get on a board again. And now I just kind of suck. I skated better when I was 9.

    Just kind of wondering if anyone relates.. Lately I've been getting ISTJ-ish results a lot on tests too.

  2. #2
    Senior Member KDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    8,263

    Default

    Another thing on my mind lately is my parents.. my dad is already 72.. my mom is getting up years. I don't like the prospects. I have to take care of them more. I don't see myself as being any kind of free spirit and burning my family. As much as I dislike it, I want to be responsible. They can't work as hard, and I'm definitely not going to throw them in a nursing home one day. Usually I don't do things that I think suck, but suddenly I'm realizing you have to do some things no matter what.

  3. #3
    Member Crafter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    MBTI
    ISTP
    Posts
    32

    Default

    You could just be in an unhealthy ISTP state. Like nothing seems like any fun anymore, pointless... I tend to do that when I'm depressed. The J can be from you not really wanting to do anything new at this point. Being stuck in an unhealthy pattern.

    It helps me when I set up goals of some sort. It motivates me out of the depressed state. I can't tell you what you should set up as yours though. Only you know that.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    "I am the bullet, you are the bullseye. When I hit, there's nothing left"

    http://crafter79.mypersonality.info

  4. #4
    Senior Member KDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    8,263

    Default

    How do you transition from this...

    Henry Hill: For us to live any other way was nuts. Uh, to us, those goody-good people who worked shitty jobs for bum paychecks and took the subway to work every day, and worried about their bills, were dead. I mean they were suckers. They had no balls. If we wanted something we just took it. If anyone complained twice they got hit so bad, believe me, they never complained again


    To this..

    Henry Hill: Today everything is different; there's no action... have to wait around like everyone else. Can't even get decent food - right after I got here, I ordered some spaghetti with marinara sauce, and I got egg noodles and ketchup. I'm an average nobody... get to live the rest of my life like a schnook.

    And not go insane...

    I need a productive, fun way to channel Se. Sitting on my ass and enjoying the weather or food is not Se either. That's Si, I think.

  5. #5
    Member Crafter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    MBTI
    ISTP
    Posts
    32

    Default

    Think of it as a surfer.

    Life moves in waves. When you're at the top, wind is blowing, you feel alive and things doesn't get any better. But the wave eventually fades out and you wipe out.
    So what if the food doesn't taste as good or the service has turned to crap. Go somewhere else then. Find a new place. Don't stick to old patterns.
    A surfer swims towards the next wave. If he doesn't move and take action, he'll be left cold and wet, just sitting there on his board.

    I don't know you or how your life is, but nothing will change unless you decide that you're going to do something about it. Maybe stop skating, pick up a new sport. Perhaps join a group activity to meet new people and replace your dead buddies with. Seing your parents grow old is kinda scary sometimes, makes you understand mortality, but you can only do so much to take care of them. You can't be dragged in too deep in their problems or they will consume you too. They want you to live your life believe me.

    So find yourself a new wave man.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    "I am the bullet, you are the bullseye. When I hit, there's nothing left"

    http://crafter79.mypersonality.info

  6. #6
    Senior Member KDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    8,263

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Crafter View Post
    Seing your parents grow old is kinda scary sometimes, makes you understand mortality, but you can only do so much to take care of them. You can't be dragged in too deep in their problems or they will consume you too. They want you to live your life believe me.

    So find yourself a new wave man.
    That's probably the biggest step I can't go towards in my mind right now.

    Everything else makes sense. And would be easier if I had money. Half of the exciting stuff to even feed Se with needs money. Lots of money. And probably some license and expensive training to boot. Red tape. This isn't the wild west, where I can just steal a horse (replace horse with boat/plane/67 stingray/etc). Most people who have all of this shit are old farts who keep their cars in the garage, and bring it out on Sundays to film in the empty cul de sac. My Se wants to break into their garages and take their shit. But you can't do that. Everyone will cry.

    Anyways, I'm going to stop this rant before I get off track. I need to think.

  7. #7
    likes this gromit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    6,652

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    That's probably the biggest step I can't go towards in my mind right now.

    Everything else makes sense. And would be easier if I had money. Half of the exciting stuff to even feed Se with needs money. Lots of money. And probably some license and expensive training to boot. Red tape. This isn't the wild west, where I can just steal a horse (replace horse with boat/plane/67 stingray/etc). Most people who have all of this shit are old farts who keep their cars in the garage, and bring it out on Sundays to film in the empty cul de sac. My Se wants to break into their garages and take their shit. But you can't do that. Everyone will cry.

    Anyways, I'm going to stop this rant before I get off track. I need to think.
    Lots of fun and exciting stuff costs little to no money.

    For me one of the most stimulating is going on a hike, a really physically strenuous hike, where you have to use all four limbs, where it is almost like a puzzle to solve. Then, you get to the top and you are rewarded with very cool views and a sandwich that somehow tastes way more delicious than it should.

    That is just an example. But there are tons of other things you can do for free or almost free.

    Sometimes, the less you do, the less you want to do. The more you do, the more you want to do. I get into funks too. Mostly I have found it comes from a feeling of helplessness, like nothing I am doing is making an impact, like I cannot change my situation. Sometimes it is just a small thing that needs to be changed, go on a long run, clean my bedroom, eat some tasty and wholesome food.

    My most recent funk, it was larger, I needed a new career, quit my job.
    Your kisses, sweeter than honey. But guess what, so is my money.

  8. #8
    Senior Member KDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    8,263

    Default

    Hiking is boring to me tbh. Looking at nice views is OK, but I'll lose my interest quickly. I can do that, but I'd rather have more intensity and speed.. I think those calmer, more nuanced sensations are Si. Extracting a lot of one's impression of places is Si. Se doesn't go for the impression, but wants to experience or cause an objective level of impact. Not a sense of impact in your head, but one that is actually happening.

  9. #9
    Controlled Mischief StephMC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    MBTI
    ISTP
    Enneagram
    9w8 sp/sx
    Socionics
    ISTp
    Posts
    1,054

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    of the exciting stuff to even feed Se with needs money. Lots of money.
    That sounds like a cop-out to me. Some of the most fun Se moments I've had is when I'm kind of broke and have to figure out how to make something happen. Granted, of course it's fun to Se it out with money too, but... it's not completely necessary.

    Other than that, @Crafter gives some awesome advice. I can't tell you how many times fellow STP friends have told me (pretty much) to suck it up and drag myself out of the rut I'm in. I always think, "Well... easier said than done." And then when I'm finally out of that rut, I look back and think, "Well shit. Yep, all it took was a bit of effort to drag myself out."

    As for your parents, be careful with the amount of responsibility you put on yourself. Financial reasons are one thing, obligation out of guilt is another. I've never been in that particular situation, but I have picked up a lot of my family's burdens in the past out of a sense of duty. And I was pretty miserable. Helping your family out in a time of need is obviously not a bad thing. Doing it when you're already stretched thin is a mistake.
    I have an inner monologue that sounds strikingly similar to something off Animal Planet.

  10. #10
    Senior Member KDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    8,263

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by StephMC View Post
    That sounds like a cop-out to me. Some of the most fun Se moments I've had is when I'm kind of broke and have to figure out how to make something happen.
    Me too.. But sometimes the way I tried to have fun "in a vacuum" was shaking things up.. and possibly illegal. And sometimes hurt people. Or blew something up. Or at least, was equivalent to a roller coaster ride on LSD.

    What are the productive ways of getting the same underlying experience?

    The things I have my mind on now that would be as exciting do require money. A badass car, maybe kayaking, the long and arduous process of a flight school (and even then, I wouldn't own a plane if I had a license. I'd rent time at best... and it'd still be expensive as hell). Sight seeing on a trail isn't going to cut it for me. Unless I had a monster truck.

Similar Threads

  1. Charity runner loses their life raising money
    By Survive & Stay Free in forum Politics, History, and Current Events
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-25-2012, 12:43 PM
  2. iNtuition, impatience, and losing their heads
    By Mephisto in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 01-26-2012, 03:22 PM
  3. What Did the Democrats do Strategically Wrong to lose their congressional advantage
    By Vizconde in forum Politics, History, and Current Events
    Replies: 52
    Last Post: 11-07-2010, 02:28 PM
  4. Replies: 47
    Last Post: 09-05-2010, 06:46 PM
  5. ~Great Moments~ When Public Figures Lose Their Tempers
    By heart in forum Arts & Entertainment
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 03-05-2010, 09:29 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO