Yeah, you're probably an ISTJ and an enneagram 1. I've not known an SP to get that chuffed about grades, not even those who were more academically inclined.
Really? I see this as being competitive. I want to be the best in the class. Many artisans want to be the best at whatever they are doing. If I am working at McDonald's I want to be the best worker on the shift. Same thing.
But the page was written by an INFJ who is frustrated that her INTJ husband thinks in terms of concepts instead of names ("that blue store" versus "Lowes"). She thinks in terms of names, and she's an INFJ not a Ti type. But she says that Ti is the naming type. Talk about self-contradiction.
Wow. You misunderstood the article. Infj has Ti tertiary. So she does use Ti for thinking process. Not a self-contradiction at all.
I could say from this - "That's how I understand things" - that you're an INFJ, but at this point your lack of ability to introspect, which is obvious from your questions here about type
Um. I am very introspective. I journalize my thoughts
daily. My questions about type is simply because it is difficult to be objective about yourself on certain things. Also, I want to see how I come across on a forum. This has nothing to do with my not being introspective.
and instead, to imitate the idiosyncrasies of others which requires an external focus - points to extraversion.
You are right; imitating the idiosyncrasies of others is extraversion. I attribute this to an auxiliary Extraverting Sensing. Most individuals use both dominant and auxiliary functions often.
You're an ENFJ and probably an enneatype 3w2.
Why an enfj would enjoy studying math, the logical and analysis aspects of it is beyond me. My infatuation with math and other logical analysis activities points to a dominant or auxiliary Ti.
Enfjs are people persons. Not me at all. I am not good with spotting others' emotions and responding to them naturally. I have to work at being in tune with others emotions. I am not affectionate. Hugs and kisses make me extremely uncomfortable. I am clearly a thinking type. Involving people and their emotions always comes second to me, not always intentionally, it's just not my main focus.
Once again I will state, I am definitely a utilitarian type rather than a cooperative type. My
introspection has solved this question for me. So anyone who says I seem like anything other than a Rational or thinking Artisan is obviously disregarding what I know to be
very true about myself.
The only functions that could even be debatable are the j/p function and s/n function. I am definitely ixtx.
The more I read about you, the more I'm thinking you're the ENFJ type. In the chart I provided above, the ENFJ is one of the "take charge" types, as you described in the OP.
I usually get things going (take-charge, if you will) when I am in group projects. Everyone else just sits around and stares at each other, so I find I am the one who has to organize everything and gives us a start and execution plan.
Actually, what I wrote sounds a lot like chart-the-course. I give us an "execution plan". You are reading too much into my could-be-more accurate-word choice. I am not take-charge per se. I am just the
first to give us an outline on how we can accomplish what needs to be done. The first to say,"Here are our problems, this is maybe how we can solve them." I feel I am the first person to really get the group on track. Hence charting-the-course.
You also need to be sure to look not just at the action but the motivations behind the actions. I could
appear to be the in-charge interaction style because I often do speak up first, but that does not mean that I feel comfortable doing it and that I enjoy doing it or even want to do it. I hate being the first one to speak up. I loathe being the most vocal one in a group setting. I want someone else to provide us with action. But because I action-oriented, I don't like sitting around and will speak up if everyone else is hanging his head.
Please read carefully:
Also, in my first post I listed all the things about me that made me doubt that I was an artisan. Not the things that made me think I was an artisan. I could list a million and one things that make me sound like an artisan but my goal was to say, "I think I am an artisan, but these things don't sound like an artisan so help me figure out why that is."
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[MENTION]PeopleWatcher [/MENTION]- you sounds more like an xxTJ to he honest, even the way you ask these questions scream "extroverted thinking" to me, jumping from one general personality-typing methodology to another without quite going into the breakdown nitty gritty's of any of them.
I "jump" around without "breaking" it down because my posts are already long enough and I wasn't sure if people would read them if they were too long. I
am new to this site. Also, I figured if you were answering my posts then you were knowledgable about all the personality systems and such and that you wouldn't need to have an introductory course in what I was saying. I was assuming you would just get where I was hinting. But since I am new, I have learned. Next time I will go into the nitty-gritty and my posts may end up being two pages or more. Believe I can get pretty thorough just like a Ti, but I didn't want to bore anyone. Haha.
Tactics
Also my love of math supports my artisan claim because many people don't realize that mathematics involves lots of tactics, which artisans excel at and enjoy implementing.
I am still welcoming new, well-thought out comments.
