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    Default ISFP self-awareness of goals, motives, desires

    So you know how some ExFJ people are so sensitive to the group's desires and goals that they kind of lose their inner drummer or their sense of self?

    Can you have an ISFP that does this? Who is hypersensitive to other people's feelings, and even good with knowing instinctually what they feel, but who is not so good with understanding their motives or desires or personal goals?
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    Sure. That's basically the description of an unhealthy 9, which a bunch of IxFPs typically are [9s that is, not necessarily unhealthy ones]. On the low side, 9s can be swept up in the desires of others at times and sort of forget/suppress themselves unknowingly, which can create some personal confusion.



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    Thanks, @JocktheMotie. I need to read up on the enneagram.
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    *Faith is the art of holding on to things your reason once accepted, despite your changing moods.
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    Agree with @JocktheMotie - that would be my answer as well.
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    When people see some things as good,
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    Yes yes yes that sounds like a 9. 9s merge into other people by their nature, but are paradoxically detached. Their core issue is anger, which they tend to repress, but it actually helps them to get in touch with it. Their fixation or "holy idea" is love, but they can become so empty when unhealthy that they are completely in their body (they are a body type) and focused outward toward distractions rather dealing with what's going on inside of them.

    I love 9s, I love them a lot. They tend to have kind of a soothing energy, but can suddenly 'splode over surprising things, like they let things fester.

    When very unhealthy they will just avoid everything, and be passive to a point that it's passive-aggressive...meaning their passivity can actually be damaging to others.

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    This was really helpful, everybody. Thank you.
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    *Faith is the art of holding on to things your reason once accepted, despite your changing moods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    This was really helpful, everybody. Thank you.
    You're welcome. Glad I could help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    You're welcome. Glad I could help.
    @Jeffster!
    Interested in weighing in?

    I offer one Jeffster-friendly meme in exchange for relevant thoughts, or even semi-coherent musings, on this subject matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    I offer one Jeffster-friendly meme in exchange for relevant thoughts, or even semi-coherent musings, on this subject matter.
    Uhhh..I think the answer to your original question is yes. I am better able to sense people's feelings than their personal goals if said goals are not stated, yes. I think that's what you were asking!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    Uhhh..I think the answer to your original question is yes. I am better able to sense people's feelings than their personal goals if said goals are not stated, yes. I think that's what you were asking!
    Thanks.
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