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    Well, he is a Perceiver for sure, I guess no one can disagree on that. I guess he's a Thinker too. Introverted Thinker I'd say.
    But his information-gathering function is so balanced between Extroverted iNtuition and Extroverted Sensation that I guess he's one of that persons that have a almost perfect measure between those. Also, he was so talented in areas where N is better used (such as math, physics) and S is better used (such as painting, sculpting) that makes me think again he had both very well developed.

    But I can't see the ESTP feel coming out of him. So, we have:

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    So I guess these three is well accepted. But if I had to choose one, It'd be ENTP 5w?

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    Clearly he was an INFP because we are awesome and he was awesome and ERGO he is INFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    I've seen both. And wow. I've always been obsessed with Leonardo's many talents and the fact he didn't fully explore just one. I like how he started many projects, and fininshed few - something I relate to. Anyway, I've seen through the entire video and pointed out important parts which may relate to Leonardo's personality.

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    2:34 - The first of many Leonardo's signs he likes to observate, feel the environment. Se behavior.

    3:03 - Leonardo was apparently reserved. Clear introversion sign.

    3:14 - Talks about his curiosity about the natural world, examining and studying everything. Yet another great Se sign.

    13:36 - Leonardo didn't like violence. Yet he develops deadly war machines. Don't know if you think so, but this seems to me like a lack of Fi, since he doesn't show any value system.

    15:15 - Leonardo was impatient. He wanted to create master-pieces right away. In other words, he was impatient with the process of learning and doing, and wanted to move to the hard things right away. This seems pretty SP for me, for the impulsiveness.

    17:23 - The deciding of painting in oil instead shows on him some inovative and creative mind. This makes even less likely for him being a SJ, or simply a J, i guess.

    21:07 - "If there's no love... what then?". Feeling traces? Nah, I guess not.

    23:39 - Again, an introversion trace. Reservation and unwilling to reveal what he's up to.

    23:50 - Leonardo's trying to convince the ruler with militar weaponry and things related to destruction and death even though he's not adept to wars. I can't see any strong value system there, if you ask. So no Fi, maybe?

    26:48 and on - Leonardo wondered and made observations related to Se, Ne and even Ni. Oh wow.

    33:07 - Leonardy seems to defies what is seemingly absurd to the time. Not only about the horse, about another already accepted cientific discoveries he denied, studied, and then came up to a new conclusion. Again, Leonardo is absurdly curious, does not accept what is strangely absolute. This may be a NT trace, but I'm not sure.

    34:26 - Again, he supposedly does not like violence, but keep inventing war machines. No value system involved at all.

    44:07 - Does anyone here still thinks he is a judger?

    45:00 - Once again, his observations skills. No, more than that: he had a need for observating, so everything stayed perfect, the way nature is.

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    5:21 - A vision worth of a general, a captain, I must say. He perceived the obvious, but in that time this was absurd, and once again defied and proposed an idea that would give a strong advantage for the Venetians.

    17:29 - Pragmatic. Another SP characteristic.

    17:39 - Another P characteristic. Even though he needed money, he didn't finished some of those unwanted jobs.

    21:55 - Variety of obsessions, interests. Strong Ne sign.

    22:16 - Uncanny love for birds, and the nature itself. Fi may not be that low after all.

    32:22 - Inconstant. iNtuitive Perceiver signal for sure.

    34:59 - Leonardo was willing to break laws in order to know more. No principles, no system value. He only want to know more and more.

    42:56 - Still thinks he's a judger, anyone?

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    Well, above anything, Leonardo was curious. Absurdly curious. Some stuff he would observe, others he would imagine in his head with accuracy. The fact is that he is an example os perfect Se and Ne balance: he'd observe things so he understands the true nature of that, and'd imagine endless possibilites for anything in his life. Actually, the human life itself is too short for Leonardo completing everything he studied and got interested in. Regarding that, he got this Extraverted iNtuition Perceiving feel going around, because he imagined infinite possibilities, enthusiastically started them, but occasionaly lost interest and went to another, yet still always willing on going back to the first one someday. I know that because I'm Ne dom and a Perceiver. In the other hand, he didn't only speculated crazy theories in his head; he went out there and observed whatever needed to be observed.
    It didn't become clear to me his decision-making function, but the most likely is Ti, since he had this need for understanding how things work.
    He's probably an introvert. The way he managed his life made this impression on me, but I'm not sure...
    He's a perceiver, also.

    This way, I'm only down to INTP, ISTP, ENTP, ESTP, again. But now, if I had to choose one, it'd be INTP.

    One thing is right though... he is by far the most talented human being that ever existed, and it's hard to imagine a human mind as developed as his.
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    lol just to add to the confusion of this thread, i have a friend that is ENTP and he's always been great at drawing. so i don't think the two exclude. (i read something about...i think in the socionics website - about Ne dom people being really good at one particular sensing activity (and not caring about it). so painting could be his).
    i think he's definitely an enneagram 7 right? what mbti types are associated with that?
    i'm going to narrow this down to ENTP vs INTP girl
    ps: total lolz to infp protest bellow yours (i can't double quote)

    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlock View Post
    Well, he is a Perceiver for sure, I guess no one can disagree on that. I guess he's a Thinker too. Introverted Thinker I'd say.
    But his information-gathering function is so balanced between Extroverted iNtuition and Extroverted Sensation that I guess he's one of that persons that have a almost perfect measure between those. Also, he was so talented in areas where N is better used (such as math, physics) and S is better used (such as painting, sculpting) that makes me think again he had both very well developed.

    But I can't see the ESTP feel coming out of him. So, we have:

    ENTP
    INTP
    ISTP

    So I guess these three is well accepted. But if I had to choose one, It'd be ENTP 5w?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkgraffiti View Post
    lol just to add to the confusion of this thread, i have a friend that is ENTP and he's always been great at drawing. so i don't think the two exclude. (i read something about...i think in the socionics website - about Ne dom people being really good at one particular sensing activity (and not caring about it). so painting could be his).
    i think he's definitely an enneagram 7 right? what mbti types are associated with that?
    i'm going to narrow this down to ENTP vs INTP girl
    ps: total lolz to infp protest bellow yours (i can't double quote)
    I would say 7 may be his second, but 5 would have to be his first because he was, after all, the man who wanted to know everything, the clear sign of an investigater.

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    I wouldn't have never questioned his type being other than INTP because his extravagant ideas of machinary were so outside the norm, and I always viewed him as an outcast which I view ISTPs to not be. I might be getting him mixed up with Michelangelo, but wasn't he born out of wedlock and that was like a big deal back in those days? So, he was given like a "scarlet letter" in his early years.
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