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    Default SPs and Intelligence

    it seems to me that SPs tend to either be extremely stupid, or brilliantly intelligent but that few fall in the middle. would you (especially SPs) agree that this is the general trend, or does it just appear this way?

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    I don't think intelligence and personality are related at all.

    If SP's tend to be seen as generally less intelligent, it may be due to the nature of Se. Se is impulsive, indulgent, and wants to live in the moment... which means SP's are less likely to pursue things like school as much as other types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyGeek View Post
    I don't think intelligence and personality are related at all.

    If SP's tend to be seen as generally less intelligent, it may be due to the nature of Se. Se is impulsive, indulgent, and wants to live in the moment... which means SP's are less likely to pursue things like school as much as other types.
    interesting. I do believet there is a correlation between type and intelligence, but I can't say for certain what it is (MBTI does deal with the prominence of various cognitive functions and preferences. it seems to me that that would be hard to seperate from intelligence)
    PS: thankyou for not turning this into a "oh! you hate SPs!" thread.

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    Think of it this way.
    People see intelligence in different ways.
    There are multiple intelligences.
    While a person may not be particularly intelligent to you in one way, that person could very well be smarter than you in another.

    Take the role of the construction engineer, the technicians, and the laymen (aka builders of every form whether it be carpentry, brick, etc) as an example. You may very well think the engineer is smarter, but when it comes to the use of the tools to get the job done, the technicians and laymen would very well have more experience in handling the tools than the engineers do. Wouldn't it be fun to see the engineer do the work of a technician or the laymen for a change?

    Or an even greater example. Compare a doctor/medical specialist of any kind and compare that person to a mechanic of any kind. It would be hard to compare their intelligences when their field is different.

    Either way you see it, there is bound to be someone smarter than you in a different area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyGeek View Post
    I don't think intelligence and personality are related at all.
    Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyGeek View Post
    If SP's tend to be seen as generally less intelligent
    I think that's only true on these personality forums (meaning it's as a result of most people here being generally less intelligent.)

    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyGeek View Post
    it may be due to the nature of Se. Se is impulsive, indulgent, and wants to live in the moment... which means SP's are less likely to pursue things like school as much as other types.
    Or perhaps pursue multiple unrelated degrees when the urge takes them? I mean, wouldn't an SP be an SP in any domain? It's not the domains that are different for types; types just behave differently in domains.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    (MBTI does deal with the prominence of various cognitive functions and preferences. it seems to me that that would be hard to seperate from intelligence)
    Um, why?
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    Based on whatever definition of intelligence you've made up, you are probably right. SP's probably are really brilliant or really stupid within that definition.
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    intellectual =/= intelligent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeru View Post
    Think of it this way.
    People see intelligence in different ways.
    There are multiple intelligences.
    While a person may not be particularly intelligent to you in one way, that person could very well be smarter than you in another.

    Take the role of the construction engineer, the technicians, and the laymen (aka builders of every form whether it be carpentry, brick, etc) as an example. You may very well think the engineer is smarter, but when it comes to the use of the tools to get the job done, the technicians and laymen would very well have more experience in handling the tools than the engineers do. Wouldn't it be fun to see the engineer do the work of a technician or the laymen for a change?

    Or an even greater example. Compare a doctor/medical specialist of any kind and compare that person to a mechanic of any kind. It would be hard to compare their intelligences when their field is different.

    Either way you see it, there is bound to be someone smarter than you in a different area.
    Yea, so true. I once was talking to a couple of friends about this. I asked why we all got along so well and were able to relate on so many levels, when on the surface, we are all so different. We were all in different fields, (actually fields representative of our respective MBTI types), and one mentioned that people of similar intelligence along together, and we all thought that we probably had similar intelligence. (Our definition seeming to run along the lines of IQ/ reasoning/ problems solving/ learning ability.) We figured that though we all have knowledge and more smarts in our given trades, our conversations all stayed similar in topic and interest.

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    there's a lot of dumbasses and geniuses of every type out there... AND people who fall inbetween. It's not type related in the least

    one of the smartest people I know is an SP as is one of the dumbest... and quite a few of the people who fall inbetween as well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    there's a lot of dumbasses and geniuses of every type out there... AND people who fall inbetween. It's not type related in the least

    one of the smartest people I know is an SP as is one of the dumbest... and quite a few of the people who fall inbetween as well...


    I have people of all varying types in my list of smartest/ most respected for intelligence people that I know, as well. (Not that my experience and definition is gospel), but in the same breath, no one else's is, either.

    For another off topic. I probably would find more fascination with smart non-SP's however, because their thought processes are so different. My best friend is an ESFP, we are both about the same when it comes to intelligence (in my mind.) I don't get that much from her though, It's like we're in the same head.
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