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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    knowledge with a practical bent is a very sensor quality. i'd say many S's here probably have shelves of books on gardening, cooking, personal growth... i have many of these types of books as well. i used to have a difficult time with fiction as i felt it was a waste of time and preferred to spend my time reading non-fiction books. i also enjoyed a lot of stuff on health and self efficiency, astrology, psychology, religious topics like buddhism, philosophy, karma, reincarnation, etc.
    I love books and enjoy having a library. Of course, it would only reflect my interests and funny enough, my library is private, not for the public to see.

    I tested as a very strong sensor about two years ago (70% on one of those simple freebie test) so it is nice to see some Ne/Ni on my test. It seems to reflects my personal growth in my life.

    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan
    logic vs. emotions:
    What is Critical Thinking?
    No one always acts purely objectively and rationally. We connive for selfish interests. We gossip, boast, exaggerate, and equivocate. It is "only human" to wish to validate our prior knowledge, to vindicate our prior decisions, or to sustain our earlier beliefs. In the process of satisfying our ego, however, we can often deny ourselves intellectual growth and opportunity. We may not always want to apply critical thinking skills, but we should have those skills available to be employed when needed.

    Critical thinking includes a complex combination of skills. Among the main characteristics are the following:
    Rationality
    We are thinking critically when we

    * rely on reason rather than emotion,
    * require evidence, ignore no known evidence, and follow evidence where it leads, and
    * are concerned more with finding the best explanation than being right analyzing apparent confusion and asking questions.

    Self-awareness
    We are thinking critically when we

    * weigh the influences of motives and bias, and
    * recognize our own assumptions, prejudices, biases, or point of view.

    Honesty
    We are thinking critically when we recognize emotional impulses, selfish motives, nefarious purposes, or other modes of self-deception.
    Open-mindedness
    We are thinking critically when we

    * evaluate all reasonable inferences
    * consider a variety of possible viewpoints or perspectives,
    * remain open to alternative interpretations
    * accept a new explanation, model, or paradigm because it explains the evidence better, is simpler, or has fewer inconsistencies or covers more data
    * accept new priorities in response to a reevaluation of the evidence or reassessment of our real interests, and
    * do not reject unpopular views out of hand.

    Discipline
    We are thinking critically when we

    * are precise, meticulous, comprehensive, and exhaustive
    * resist manipulation and irrational appeals, and
    * avoid snap judgments.

    Judgment
    We are thinking critically when we

    * recognize the relevance and/or merit of alternative assumptions and perspectives
    * recognize the extent and weight of evidence

    In sum,

    * Critical thinkers are by natureskeptical. They approach texts with the same skepticism and suspicion as they approach spoken remarks.
    * Critical thinkers areactive, not passive. They ask questions and analyze. They consciously apply tactics and strategies to uncover meaning or assure their understanding.
    * Critical thinkers do not take an egotistical view of the world. They areopento new ideas and perspectives. They are willing to challenge their beliefs and investigate competing evidence.

    Critical thinking enables us to recognize a wide range of subjective analyses of otherwise objective data, and to evaluate how well each analysis might meet our needs. Facts may be facts, but how we interpret them may vary.

    By contrast, passive, non-critical thinkers take a simplistic view of the world.

    * They see things in black and white, as either-or, rather than recognizing a variety of possible understanding.
    * They see questions as yes or no with no subtleties.
    * They fail to see linkages and complexities.
    * They fail to recognize related elements.

    Non-critical thinkers take an egotistical view of the world

    * They take their facts as the only relevant ones.
    * They take their own perspective as the only sensible one.
    * They take their goal as the only valid one.
    This is excellent. Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by countrygirl View Post
    I love books and enjoy having a library. Of course, it would only reflect my interests and funny enough, my library is private, not for the public to see.

    I tested as a very strong sensor about two years ago (70% on one of those simple freebie test) so it is nice to see some Ne/Ni on my test. It seems to reflects my personal growth in my life.
    I'm not that great with books.

    I'm not sure why, they just bore me. I do read (don't get me wrong,) however, I haven't found many books that I can truly like outside of visual novels (comics, manga, etc,) fantasy, fiction, and just a little bit of sci-fi (Ender's Game .)

    Other than that, you can say that I read TONS of things (especially online,) just...books are...

    Though I do read when I have to (like for college and reading manuals for something.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeru View Post
    I'm not that great with books.

    I'm not sure why, they just bore me. I do read (don't get me wrong,) however, I haven't found many books that I can truly like outside of visual novels (comics, manga, etc,) fantasy, fiction, and just a little bit of sci-fi (Ender's Game .)

    Other than that, you can say that I read TONS of things (especially online,) just...books are...

    Though I do read when I have to (like for college and reading manuals for something.)
    My ISTP husband doesn't like books or reading either unless it some techincal manual on vehicles or he is reading to our children.

    I think it has to due with my enneagram 5. It's like I hoard information in my head so that I can make sense of the world.
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    What I thought was weird was this was the first time ever that I had a higher score for Ti than Te. I must have spent too much time with my INTP brother back in the Summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    What I thought was weird was this was the first time ever that I had a higher score for Ti than Te. I must have spent too much time with my INTP brother back in the Summer.
    What I found interesting was that for most of us, our Te were second to the lasts of the functions.

    Aside from this test telling me I was an EXFP.

    Quote Originally Posted by countrygirl View Post
    My ISTP husband doesn't like books or reading either unless it some techincal manual on vehicles or he is reading to our children.

    I think it has to due with my enneagram 5. It's like I hoard information in my head so that I can make sense of the world.
    The only time I hoard information in my head is college mid-terms/finals or if there is something important that needs remembering. Other than that, I tend to just let information come to me without worrying about hoarding it. If I need information on something I'll look for it.

    It is sort of like I'll learn how to do "X" eventually.

    I'll learn how to make scramble eggs eventually (by watching my siblings when I was little.)
    I'll learn the components to the computer eventually (by owning my own computer and changing parts of it.)
    I'll learn how to put air into my car tires by going to the gas station to put air into my tires.
    I'll learn a programming concept eventually by trying it out instead of constantly reading about it.
    etc....

    I learn better by example rather than by only reading about something. Which is why I score pretty high on visual/spatial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeru View Post
    The only time I hoard information in my head is college mid-terms/finals or if there is something important that needs remembering. Other than that, I tend to just let information come to me without worrying about hoarding it. If I need information on something I'll look for it.

    It is sort of like I'll learn how to do "X" eventually.

    I'll learn how to make scramble eggs eventually (by watching my siblings when I was little.)
    I'll learn the components to the computer eventually (by owning my own computer and changing parts of it.)
    I'll learn how to put air into my car tires by going to the gas station to put air into my tires.
    I'll learn a programming concept eventually by trying it out instead of constantly reading about it.
    etc....

    I learn better by example rather than by only reading about something. Which is why I score pretty high on visual/spatial.
    There is no subsitute for actually doing something to learn it, no matter how much you read. I even see that in my children, they learn by example (including my behaviour). It's monkey see, monkey do. Well anyways, I've changed my enneagram to 4w5 but I still like to hoard info my brain for when I do have the time to do something. My books are my references when I don't remember what I've read. I've aways wanted to reinvent the wheel and I don't know why!
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    Your Cognitive Development Profile
    The forty-eight questions you rated earlier tap into the eight cognitive processes. Some questions tapped into basic or developed use of a process used by itself, while other questions tapped into use of multiple processes at once. The profile below is based on your responses. The number of squares indicate strength of response. The equivalent numeric is shown in parentheses along with likely level of development.
    Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
    extraverted Sensing (Se) ************************************* (37.2)
    excellent use
    introverted Sensing (Si) ************************************* (37)
    excellent use
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) **************************************** (40)
    excellent use
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) ********* (9.6)
    unused
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ****************************** (30.8)
    good use
    introverted Thinking (Ti) *************************************** (39.1)
    excellent use
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************* (13.8)
    unused
    introverted Feeling (Fi) ********************************* (33.1)
    good use

    Summary Analysis of Profile
    By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: ENTP

    Lead (Dominant) Process
    Extraverted Intuiting (Ne): Exploring the emerging patterns. Wondering about patterns of interaction across various situations. Checking what hypotheses and meanings fit best. Trusting what emerges as you shift a situation’s dynamics.

    Support (Auxilliary) Process
    Introverted Thinking (Ti): Gaining leverage (influence) using a framework. Detaching to study a situation from different angles and fit it to a theory, framework or principle. Checking for accuracy. Using leverage to solve the problem.

    If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: INTP, or ESTP

    If these results are different from what you know of yourself, you might consider why your

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    ENTP is a hell of a lot different than ISFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    ENTP is a hell of a lot different than ISFP.

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    isfp seems to fit right now

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