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    Quote Originally Posted by JoSunshine View Post
    I've been trying to figure out my I?FP. He says that he thinks about the consequences of everything that he does and knows when he is making an irresponsible decision, but does it anyway. He is artistic and philosophical. Playful at times, reserved at others. I have no idea.

    I think it would be hard to tell the difference between an ISFP and INFP based on communication style alone. I would image they are largely the same.
    Agreed here. I find that to be the same for all types separated by s/n (XTJs/XTPs/XFJs/XFPs). I'd say content of the communication is probably what's most different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    I just say it anyway, even hours on. I've become known for it.
    sounds like a cute quirk.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoSunshine View Post
    I've been trying to figure out my I?FP. He says that he thinks about the consequences of everything that he does and knows when he is making an irresponsible decision, but does it anyway. He is artistic and philosophical. Playful at times, reserved at others. I have no idea.

    I think it would be hard to tell the difference between an ISFP and INFP based on communication style alone. I would image they are largely the same.
    honestly, i feel as though communication style is one of the easiest ways to tell apart ISFP's from INFP's.

    i personally find it very difficult to come up with the right words to express what i feel or think. even in this particular situation of trying to help you distinguish the ISFP from INFP. whereas, INFP's often don't lack the communication problem. this is one of the reasons why INFP's typically come off as more intelligent. ISFP's have a very weak Te, so in situations where we may be called upon on the spot to defend an idea or to try and clearly express something we feel strongly about, we begin to feel insecure in our use of language and uncomfortable in front of people. INFP's are great communicators and writers.

    however, there are scenarios where i may not give off the fact that i have a weak Te... but it has to be something i've really deliberated over for quite some time... and i mean a very long time... and also this only works if i feel 100% comfortable with my audience as well. if i'm around someone i know less well, then i feel clusterf-ed.

    as to whether one is more philosophical than the other, i'd say that's harder to gauge. my INFP ex hated whenever i got excited about something i learned in my philosophy classes that i wanted to talk about with him. i was more into philosophy, in that sense. but in other realms, he was more likely to develop his own philosophical pursuits, and was better apt at writing and explaining his ideas. he used to write me some of the most beautiful letters. i was more apt to show my feelings through action.

    also, Se can also lead to some crazy impulses that may be hard to control.
    Ne just leads to crazy ideas, typically. my INFP ex was very unspontaneous and very controlled.

    both use Fi, however, as do deliberate on values, choices, etc. a lot. for ISFP's, sometimes it's almost as though Fi and Se work against, rather than together.
    such as, i'd love to sit down and meditate more. i feel as though this is something i could truly benefit from (Fi). however, i'll get sidetracked and go off to the bar instead (Se).
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    sounds like a cute quirk.



    honestly, i feel as though communication style is one of the easiest ways to tell apart ISFP's from INFP's.

    i personally find it very difficult to come up with the right words to express what i feel or think. even in this particular situation of trying to help you distinguish the ISFP from INFP. whereas, INFP's often don't lack the communication problem. this is one of the reasons why INFP's typically come off as more intelligent. ISFP's have a very weak Te, so in situations where we may be called upon on the spot to defend an idea or to try and clearly express something we feel strongly about, we begin to feel insecure in our use of language and uncomfortable in front of people. INFP's are great communicators and writers.

    however, there are scenarios where i may not give off the fact that i have a weak Te... but it has to be something i've really deliberated over for quite some time... and i mean a very long time... and also this only works if i feel 100% comfortable with my audience as well. if i'm around someone i know less well, then i feel clusterf-ed.

    as to whether one is more philosophical than the other, i'd say that's harder to gauge. my INFP ex hated whenever i got excited about something i learned in my philosophy classes that i wanted to talk about with him. i was more into philosophy, in that sense. but in other realms, he was more likely to develop his own philosophical pursuits, and was better apt at writing and explaining his ideas. he used to write me some of the most beautiful letters. i was more apt to show my feelings through action.

    also, Se can also lead to some crazy impulses that may be hard to control.
    Ne just leads to crazy ideas, typically. my INFP ex was very unspontaneous and very controlled.

    both use Fi, however, as do deliberate on values, choices, etc. a lot. for ISFP's, sometimes it's almost as though Fi and Se work against, rather than together.
    such as, i'd love to sit down and meditate more. i feel as though this is something i could truly benefit from (Fi). however, i'll get sidetracked and go off to the bar instead (Se).
    INFPs, according to function order, have the same amount of Te an ISFP would have.

    I really fail to see how communication differs. I think the difference between N and S is that N will go over the river, across the border , through the valleys, streams and meadows to state a point where S will siimply cross the street. Excessive use of words and painted pictures does not equal more intelligent, or even more understanding.

    I think Fi doms (both S&N) communicate in ways that others may find difficult. I don't doubt their smarts, though.

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    i think Ne and tertiary Si helps them to communicate easier. Se isn't great for communicating.

    i'm in no way saying ISFP's are dumb. i'm an ISFP myself and believe myself to be very intelligent. however, i do sometimes think that in the way i present myself and in the way i sometimes find myself stumped and having trouble communicating ideas, that i just come off as less so. i've noticed INFP's don't have this problem, and in fact are rather known for being quite eloquent with their words--poets of words.
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    INFP:
    The other INFP videos, I was iffy about them actually being the type they claim.

    ISFP:
    I've met a number of ISFP's very similar to this guy. However, depending upon enneagram differences and what not, you can also see varying degree's of ISFP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoSunshine View Post
    I've been trying to figure out my I?FP. He says that he thinks about the consequences of everything that he does and knows when he is making an irresponsible decision, but does it anyway. He is artistic and philosophical. Playful at times, reserved at others. I have no idea.

    I think it would be hard to tell the difference between an ISFP and INFP based on communication style alone. I would image they are largely the same.
    I'm similar.. I usually think about consequences about everything I will do... and sometimes because I anticipate possible failures & bad scenarios all the time, it makes me very reserved to do/say certain things. (thinking before I speak/do something). However, if I feel comfortable enough with a situation or certain people, this makes me feel more safe to act more playful, more daring etc. Or sometimes, I will have such a strong feeling about something that even when I know there will be bad consequences/irresponsible, I go ahead and do it anyways (do now for the good feelings, suffer later? lol).

    I have an ISTP friend.. and I like his 'going with the flow' kind of attitude. I can randomly text him if we wants to hang out and he'd be like ok! I feel like if he's not doing anything, he will usually be up for anything in the spur of the moment. I can be the same, but I'm way more hesitant than he is. I'm not sure but it's like..... he seems so easygoing with w/e situation and can just live in the moment, whereas I may seem that way on the outside but inside I could be constantly worrying about something bad possibly happening and won't be able to relax as much as he can.

    I can really imagine, him being the type to suddenly drop everything and go somewhere & do something for the fun of it without worrying too much about certain consequences. Let's just say, he's more daring than I am for sure

    I'm also reserved and at other times playful, but my ISTP friend seems the same way. I think it's like that with all introverts though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    i think Ne and tertiary Si helps them to communicate easier. Se isn't great for communicating.

    i'm in no way saying ISFP's are dumb. i'm an ISFP myself and believe myself to be very intelligent. however, i do sometimes think that in the way i present myself and in the way i sometimes find myself stumped and having trouble communicating ideas, that i just come off as less so. i've noticed INFP's don't have this problem, and in fact are rather known for being quite eloquent with their words--poets of words.
    I've found it takes me time to flesh out ideas. It used to frustrate me when I was younger and people would put pressure on me for the idea quick. These days I am more likely to push for space to think. That's probably why Adam Sandler is fidgety in the video, it gives him space to think. I think I am probably pretty smart, though I've noticed I don't notice what I know. You know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    I've found it takes me time to flesh out ideas. It used to frustrate me when I was younger and people would put pressure on me for the idea quick. These days I am more likely to push for space to think. That's probably why Adam Sandler is fidgety in the video, it gives him space to think. I think I am probably pretty smart, though I've noticed I don't notice what I know. You know?
    It does tend to take me just a bit of time to let my ideas come out. It is just that I tend to make sure I say the right thing rather than blabber out what is the first thing that comes out of my mind. This is especially true with people I am not accustomed to.

    It is like this one incident when I was talking to my academic planning counselor for college. She asked me whether my primary language was something other than English.
    I asked her "why?"
    She replied that I looked like I was trying to interpret something like her international students.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walking Tourist View Post
    This is what finally convinced me that I am truly not an isfp. I never suppress any of my emotions. I can't. When I try to, I must make a terrible face because people say, "What's the matter?" I am completely unable to give off that poker face unless I am playing a game, such as Rummy Jack, and, then, I can hide my feelings really well. No one can guess my next move.
    I'm not good at suppressing emotions, either. I'm very much a "heart on my sleeve" guy. I don't think that determines I/E though. Because, on the other hand when I'm at work and there are more than three people in the room, I want them to shut up and go away.
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    2 of my last 3 threads have been first commented by and *ISFP* with a comment "what?"

    I think that ISFP are generally uncommunicative. At least they're curious and somewhat open.
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