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    I tried answering this a few times, but got bored.

    1. Is activity/activation paramount to your daily life? (By "activity", I don't necessarily mean base-jumping, folks. I mean anything that engages you, brain and body, even on minor levels.)

    Yes. I get bored easily. It took me a while to realise that, but itís usually because Iím also good with coming up with things that entertain me. I donít necessarily have to be doing much, so long as itís entertaining to me.

    2. What connection do you feel between physical activity and your mental well-being?

    I love being active. For me, itís not something I do alone though. Iím involved in various sports and activities, all of which involve or allow for large amounts of interaction between people. Iím not that person you see jogging alone at 7 in the morning. Other people are my motivation, even if I enjoy the physical activity immensely. I love being active though. Makes me feel alive.

    3. If you were born into and stuck in a very small dead-end town/city, how would you handle the inactivity? How important is variety? How important is it to avoid routine? What lengths would you go to get variety or avoid routine?

    I need some variety. Without it I start to feel trapped, and when I feel trapped into doing or being something I donít want, I feel physically ill. Then again, I donít want endless choices, because then Iíd never make any decisions, never get anywhere. But I need to mix things up a bit. So I can do routine, as long as there is room to play. But after extended periods of time I become moody and mildly depressed. I start snapping at people and become immature in relation to taking the blame, acting responsibly, etc.

    4. What happens mentally when you're placed under protracted or inescapable stress?

    See the last two sentences from above. I feel the need to escape. I like control where Iím concerned. Other people can do what they want, as long as Iím free to do the same. If Iím under a lot of stress, especially over time, Iím breaking free. If Iím in a dark enough state of mind, then othersí wellbeing may not concern me when I Ďbreak freeí.

    5. What happens mentally when you're confronted with protracted monotony?

    Similar to above. I take control and escape. Basically, I find something to do, and if thereís nothing to be found, I make something. I guess Iím pretty stable, but if I wasnít being reckless and destructive is a path Iíd probably take.

    6. Does mental stress translate quickly or slowly into physical signs? (This includes reckless behavior or outbursts...) What signs do you exhibit?

    Generally slowly. I think a number of people think I have a really short temper, but thatís because before then Iíve done the whole Ďbottling up emotionsí thing and the Ďthey didnít mean to, they donít realiseí thing and the Ďtake a deep breathí thing. So the seventh time the guy behind me on the bus kicks my seat heíll receive a death glare or an ill-tempered complaint and probably think Iím a bitch because of it: he didnít get a warning! Some people who know me well can pick up on the difference between expressionless-angry-looking and actual angry. Then again, a lot canít.

    7. Do you have 'internal dialogues'? What does the internal voice say to you?

    I have internal monologues, and Iím the one whoís speaking. I reason out things in my head. I explore ideas. It can be standard or random.

    If Iím walking down the street and make some quick judgement about someone because of their shoes or whatever, Iíll correct myself, reason things out and tell myself they probably have a perfectly valid reason for wearing such unbelievably hideous shoes. Basically, if my thoughts can be expressed in words, then thatís my internal voice. I can offer myself up conflicting ideas and potential reasons for things, but itís still me, not someone else.

    8. How would you respond to your parent who was behaving irresponsibly? (Alcoholism, drugs, dead-beat behavior,etc.)

    It depends entirely how and to the degree that their irresponsibility is affecting me, or others. This is one of those Ďtoo vagueí questions.

    9. If you were unable to actualize yourself, what steps would you take to gain satisfaction from your life? For example: Do you talk yourself into liking "second-best"? Do you go set a silo on fire? Do you start wearing eyeliner around your nostrils?

    I can be a perfectionist, but if Iím really not making any progress I tend to just stop and be satisfied with what Iíve done. (Or I get bored with what Iím doing and find something else to do.) Itíll have to do, because itís not getting any better. Some people tend to aim for, and only for, the best option. And if they donít get there, then it really is catastrophic. I like to cover all my bases. If I do enough to prepare for any situation so that it doesnít completely suck, then I can improvise when I find out whatís happening, and make the best of that, that Iím able. I rarely regret decisions, because I know that Iíd do it the same way again, that it was the best option given all the information and how I felt at the time. So I rarely find myself in a position where Iím unsatisfied with everything.

    I find that some people tend to linger on things more than I do. Iíve had times in my life, for months, where I was in a situation that sucked. I dealt with it by just getting on with it. It was what it was, I was in no position to change it. I accepted it, and kept going.

    10. How long do you stay in a dead-end relationship? What prompts you to stay in it? What finally prompts you to leave?

    I havenít really been in a relationship long enough for it to become a dead-end. But Iíve been put in similar situations with close friends. Usually I give people the benefit of the doubt, a few times more than they deserve, and then I just sort of... disappear. I avoid them. Iím not really into conflict for the sake of conflict. If someone else wants it, then bring it on. Otherwise I just try and avoid it, keep it polite, keep it impersonal. I leave when itís beyond no longer fun. When Iím getting way less out of it than Iím putting in. When thereís no hope, in my eyes, for salvaging it.

    11. What sort of advanced mental pursuits do you find powerfully attractive or intriguing? Are you drawn to existentialism? Abstraction? Why?

    What do you mean by Ďmental pursuitsí exactly? I like maths, mostly because I like solving the problems presented. Actually, yeah, problem solving. I like puzzles. It doesnít even have to be a real problem. Figuring out the best or most efficient way to do something, and then doing it. This is another question I find too vague.

    12. How important is control? Self-control? Control over your person/environment? Control over your ultimate fate? Would you rather die on your terms than live on someone else's?

    I can get a bit obsessive about being in control when it concerns me in a way that matters. People should be free to do as they wish (within reason). I get irritated when people but in on other peopleís rights and whatnot, as well as when they try to control me. I want to be able to do as I wish, so long as Iím not impacting on anyone elseís ability to do the same. Would I rather die on my own terms? Depends on how dire the situation is. I have gone out of my way to prove a point to people who were being selfish, etc. But Iím not being absolute about it. It depends on how constricting someone elseís terms are.

    13. How important is justice? What happens to you mentally when you see unjust things occurring? How do you physically react?

    I become angry. Physically, I donít know. I do get the urge to physically wipe the smile off some peopleís faces, so to speak, but I restrain that for obvious reasons. I guess thatís just a response to wanting to be able to fix things: to make them fair. The closest Iíve ever been to all out hate was when people were being unfair.

    14. How important is stability? Is there such a thing as "too much" stability?

    Stability is important Ė to a degree. If you donít have enough, then youíre always struggling with things, and not able to enjoy life. If you have too much, I guess thatís when things become boring and start to stagnate. Anywhere in the middle is good.

    15. How do you feel -- first mentally, then physically -- when you make a strong bond with someone? How important is loyalty? What is your personal definition of loyalty and why would you give that loyalty to another person?

    Mentally? Stimulated, I guess. Pumped. Same goes for physically, I think. Loyalty is extremely important on a person to person level, and itís kind of difficult for me to define clearly. Itís kind of a support thing. I help them out, am there for them, and want the same. It hurts when itís disregarded, not reciprocated or taken for granted.

    16. What excites your contempt? When filled with irritation or contempt, how do you (or do you NOT) express it?

    Injustice. Hypocrisy. People being unbelievably illogical. Selfishness. Stupidity. Double standards. People taking advantage of others. Self-absorbed people. People who can't even help themselves.

    I usually seethe quietly because, mostly, speaking out doesnít achieve anything. Often the people causing it donít care or donít realise, and certainly most donít want to know.

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    TY, again, everyone!


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    What do you mean using it against people?

    As in, he had a well-developed Fe, and knew how to use it skillfully to be manipulative and get what he wanted?
    Oh yes. He could be quite the snake. Sizing people up immediately then determining what he wanted to do with them. Sometimes nothing. Sometimes utterly rotten. He was a drug addict and seemed to be able to use that addictive/addicting aspect of himself to "handle" people. My ISTP bff instantly hated him in that "I know what you are and what you're doing" way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    TY, again, everyone!




    Oh yes. He could be quite the snake. Sizing people up immediately then determining what he wanted to do with them. Sometimes nothing. Sometimes utterly rotten. He was a drug addict and seemed to be able to use that addictive/addicting aspect of himself to "handle" people. My ISTP bff instantly hated him in that "I know what you are and what you're doing" way.
    Oh please share. I want to hear your perception of utterly rotten.

    I'm no angel myself. That's why the behavior sounded familiar. When I was much younger, much more selfish, and lacked morals and values...

    Does that make me a bad person as well?

    In my defense, I never hurt anyone - emotionally or physically. No one ever knew what I was up to. I figured it was only wrong if I got caught, otherwise I was innocent. I realized the error of my ways on my own, and decided that wasn't who I really was, and didn't want to be that anymore.

    What kinds of drugs was he addicted to? Was it real addiction? Or just had no real desire to change?

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    You suckered me into it.

    1. Is activity/activation paramount to your daily life? (By "activity", I don't necessarily mean base-jumping, folks. I mean anything that engages you, brain and body, even on minor levels.)

    Most of the time it is important to have something engaging to do. It's hard to say what that engaging activity might be - I might make it up or just stumble upon it.

    2. What connection do you feel between physical activity and your mental well-being?

    A strong one. Some days are more active than others. However, touching on why I said "most of the time" above, some days I might do only slightly more than nothing. These days keep you just as sane as the high action days.

    3. If you were born into and stuck in a very small dead-end town/city, how would you handle the inactivity? How important is variety? How important is it to avoid routine? What lengths would you go to get variety or avoid routine?

    There is always something to do. Everywhere. I lived in the city but also spent time in the country growing up.

    Make something up to do. Fix something. Break something. Use something for an unintended purpose. Get better at using something for it's intended purpose. Make a game.

    Routine won't kill you unless you "have" to follow it. Then the point of the routine becomes lost. I can do the "same thing" over and over, because every time I do it, it IS different, and I am a different person than I was when I did it the last time.

    To get variety/avoid routine I might just follow a whim. Get an idea, just do it, no real planning. Go ____. Race. Fix. Learn.

    4. What happens mentally when you're placed under protracted or inescapable stress?

    I get angry. Irritable. Eventually, I'll internally tell myself to stop whining and find a way to make it interesting.

    A good default activity is to ask "what have I not noticed yet." It's weird how effective this is - you just start noticing things you didn't before, all you have to do is prompt yourself to do so.

    I might forget to tell myself to stop whining if provoked. That distracts me.

    5. What happens mentally when you're confronted with protracted monotony?

    "I'm bored." > ---daydream--- > "I wish I wasn't here." > ---think about what got me here--- > "I'm bored" > ---daydream--- > ---notice that I'm daydreaming--- > ---come up with something to do

    6. Does mental stress translate quickly or slowly into physical signs? (This includes reckless behavior or outbursts...) What signs do you exhibit?

    Don't know.

    7. Do you have 'internal dialogues'? What does the internal voice say to you?

    I might make a judgment or think something through with "my" voice.

    8. How would you respond to your parent who was behaving irresponsibly? (Alcoholism, drugs, dead-beat behavior,etc.)

    Tell them they are deadbeats. Resent the fact that they are "in control" over me and they can't control themselves. Ignore it. Leave.

    9. If you were unable to actualize yourself, what steps would you take to gain satisfaction from your life? For example: Do you talk yourself into liking "second-best"? Do you go set a silo on fire? Do you start wearing eyeliner around your nostrils?

    What?

    I try to go for the option that will provide what I want. If I can't get it, I change what I want. If I find myself unhappy with that situation, I try again.

    10. How long do you stay in a dead-end relationship? What prompts you to stay in it? What finally prompts you to leave?

    Don't know.

    11. What sort of advanced mental pursuits do you find powerfully attractive or intriguing? Are you drawn to existentialism? Abstraction? Why?

    Existentialism is moderately interesting, although discussing it is incredibly boring.

    Meditation is great, though I don't know if that fits into your idea of "advanced mental pursuit" or not. Does for me.

    12. How important is control? Self-control? Control over your person/environment? Control over your ultimate fate? Would you rather die on your terms than live on someone else's?

    I like to be in control. Don't screw with my space. Last bit, don't know.

    13. How important is justice? What happens to you mentally when you see unjust things occurring? How do you physically react?

    Very important.

    Mentally, I make a judgment of why I think something is unjust and the attachments I have that are influencing my judgment.

    I usually get angry. If I feel like I can "take the hit" better than somebody else, I might take their place or otherwise confront the asshole.

    14. How important is stability? Is there such a thing as "too much" stability?

    If you're too stable, you'll be like a tree that cracks and splinters in a hard wind. Bend.

    15. How do you feel -- first mentally, then physically -- when you make a strong bond with someone? How important is loyalty? What is your personal definition of loyalty and why would you give that loyalty to another person?

    Don't know. I'm moderately ashamed of this.

    16. What excites your contempt? When filled with irritation or contempt, how do you (or do you NOT) express it?

    I'll get back to you on this, too many questions...sleep.
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    Hey, guys


    Questions!

    1. Is activity/activation paramount to your daily life? (By "activity", I don't necessarily mean base-jumping, folks. I mean anything that engages you, brain and body, even on minor levels.)
    not my daily life persay, but I definitely like to have the option of activity

    2. What connection do you feel between physical activity and your mental well-being?
    Err...

    3. If you were born into and stuck in a very small dead-end town/city, how would you handle the inactivity? How important is variety? How important is it to avoid routine? What lengths would you go to get variety or avoid routine?
    I would either find something to do, create something to do, or gtfo of dodge

    4. What happens mentally when you're placed under protracted or inescapable stress?
    First ignore, then seek to ease the stress, then seek to remove myself from stressor

    5. What happens mentally when you're confronted with protracted monotony?
    See question 3

    6. Does mental stress translate quickly or slowly into physical signs? (This includes reckless behavior or outbursts...) What signs do you exhibit?
    Does the WTF face and agitated tone of voice count? Reckless behavior comes standard. Outburst are few and far between but memorable
    7. Do you have 'internal dialogues'? What does the internal voice say to you?
    Yes. Think "WonderYears"

    8. How would you respond to your parent who was behaving irresponsibly? (Alcoholism, drugs, dead-beat behavior,etc.)
    I care not. Unless it effects me directly

    / Self contained

    9. If you were unable to actualize yourself, what steps would you take to gain satisfaction from your life? For example: Do you talk yourself into liking "second-best"? Do you go set a silo on fire? Do you start wearing eyeliner around your nostrils?
    Err.

    10. How long do you stay in a dead-end relationship? What prompts you to stay in it? What finally prompts you to leave?
    Define dead end relationship. I view all relationships a transient. Some last longer than others, but all good things much come to an end, no?

    11. What sort of advanced mental pursuits do you find powerfully attractive or intriguing? Are you drawn to existentialism? Abstraction? Why?
    Practical shit. Yes. Too a degree. Why not.

    12. How important is control? Self-control? Control over your person/environment? Control over your ultimate fate? Would you rather die on your terms than live on someone else's?
    Very. Manditory. Ideal. Pointless. Potato PotAto

    13. How important is justice? What happens to you mentally when you see unjust things occurring? How do you physically react?
    Important enough. Depends. Depends.

    14. How important is stability? Is there such a thing as "too much" stability?
    Necessary evil. Yes.

    15. How do you feel -- first mentally, then physically -- when you make a strong bond with someone? How important is loyalty? What is your personal definition of loyalty and why would you give that loyalty to another person?
    Same as anyone else? Very. Hard to pin down in a concise fashion...

    16. What excites your contempt? When filled with irritation or contempt, how do you (or do you NOT) express it?
    Hypocrisy among other things. Depends. Depends.

    Ok. 16 questions is way more than enough. Thanks again, guys.
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    In all serious though in "character mode" and "extremely exaggerated ESTPness" all you need is Bart Simpson

    That kid is 110% E though lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamboo View Post

    ...Routine won't kill you unless you "have" to follow it. Then the point of the routine becomes lost. I can do the "same thing" over and over, because every time I do it, it IS different, and I am a different person than I was when I did it the last time.
    I really like this response. It speaks to the concept that we are constantly evolving, which I believe. Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    I really like this response. It speaks to the concept that we are constantly evolving, which I believe. Nice!
    Thanks. If one thinks they are "doing the same thing" over again, then they aren't paying attention. Something is always different.
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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    I got an ISTP to answer, and his permission to post.

    Here he is:

    Arg, ok I'll fill out the survey, it beats doing work.


    > Questions!*
    >
    > 1. Is activity/activation paramount to your daily life? (By "activity", I don't necessarily mean base-jumping, folks. I mean anything that engages you, brain and body, even on minor levels.)
    >
    Yes, if I just sit around it feels like such a waste. Not every day is hyper productive, but I always try to get *something* done.

    > 2. What connection do you feel between physical activity and your mental well-being?
    >
    I'm not sure what this is asking. I do feel good mentally during and after physical activity.

    > 3. If you were born into and stuck in a very small dead-end town/city, how would you handle the inactivity? How important is variety? How important is it to avoid routine? What lengths would you go to get variety or avoid routine?
    >

    What inactivity? There are things to do anywhere. I would work on my home, I would build things and fix things, tinker with cars, bicycle around, play with fire, blow stuff up, I really don't think I'd be bothered much. The only things that might bother me a bit are the smaller choice of friends for physical interaction and a limited selection of interesting places from which to buy parts and supplies for projects, then again I order most of that stuff over the internet now anyway. I'm not bothered by routine, I shake it up every once in a while but normally enjoy it.


    > 4. What happens /mentally/ when you're placed under protracted or inescapable stress?
    >

    The gears start turning, I start thinking, mapping out solutions, either fixes for the stress, or a creative outlet to distract me from it. I work well under stress, it's a great motivator. Necessity is the mother of invention.

    > 5. What happens /mentally/ when you're confronted with protracted monotony?
    >

    I spend the time thinking, imagining, planning, dreaming, there's always some project in the works. If a computer is nearby, the internet offers a virtually unlimited source of things to browse, if there's a book or magazine I can read that. If I'm stuck doing a boring activity, music helps immeasurably.

    > 6. Does mental stress translate quickly or slowly into physical signs? (This includes reckless behavior or outbursts...) What signs do you exhibit?
    >

    Very rarely. I get irritable from time to time, but I usually put the stress towards something productive, or withdraw somewhat into thought.

    > 7. Do you have 'internal dialogues'? What does the internal voice say to you?
    >

    I talk to myself in my head, but I don't have a conversation with myself or some unidentified random voice. From time to time I'll mentally rehearse something I need to say to someone, or drill something into my head.

    > 8. How would you respond to your parent who was behaving irresponsibly? (Alcoholism, drugs, dead-beat behavior,etc.)
    >

    Hard to say, I've never been in that situation. Knowing myself, I would probably make a carefully placed snide remark or two, and if it continued I would just withdraw and avoid being around them. I've been around long enough to know I can't fix people, and I lack space in my life for those in the grip of substance dependency, even if they're family.


    > 9. If you were unable to actualize yourself, what steps would you take to gain satisfaction from your life? For example: Do you talk yourself into liking "second-best"? Do you go set a silo on fire? Do you start wearing eyeliner around your nostrils?

    Virtually everyone has to be content with 2nd best, or 10th best, or 50,000th best. No matter how good one is at something, chances are someone else is better, it's a fact of life. Why dwell on it? I gain satisfaction in doing the best I can at whatever it is. Quite often it's better than most, and that's good enough, that's not to say I'm not always trying to be better though.

    >
    > 10. How long do you stay in a dead-end relationship? What prompts you to stay in it? What finally prompts you to leave?
    >

    Until I either can't stand it anymore, or something comes along that is obviously much better suited, but even that is not always obvious. I don't particularly like change, I don't like the unfamiliar, I don't like the end. I'm prompted to stay in it out of habit and familiarity, and I am loath to throw something out when I am unsure if I will ever find anything better or even as good. A bird in the hand is worth two on the bush.

    > 11. What sort of advanced mental pursuits do you find powerfully attractive or intriguing? Are you drawn to existentialism? Abstraction? Why?
    >

    The mental pursuits I find most attractive are those that involve fixing and creating things, understanding how things work and go together, and understanding the physical world around me in general.

    > 12. How important is control? Self-control? Control over your person/environment? Control over your ultimate fate? Would you rather die on your terms than live on someone else's?
    >

    Control over myself and my environment is very important, control over others is not something I have much interest in. I would definitely rather die on my own terms than live on someone else's.


    > 13. How important is justice? What happens to you mentally when you see unjust things occurring? How do you physically react?
    >

    It's hard to put a quantitative value on this. It's important, but my physical reaction depends on my logical determination of the effectiveness of the physical actions available to me.

    > 14. How important is stability? Is there such a thing as "too much" stability?
    >

    Very important, I don't feel I can have too much stability.

    > 15. How do you feel -- first /mentally/, then /physically/ -- when you make a strong bond with someone? How important is loyalty? What is your personal definition of loyalty and why would you give that loyalty to another person?
    >

    It's a pleasant feeling for sure, I like to explore their mind and understand everything I can about them. Physically I enjoy closeness with them. Loyalty is very important to me, I am loyal to others because I want them to be loyal to me.

    > 16. What excites your contempt? When filled with irritation or contempt, how do you (or do you NOT) express it?
    >

    Rudeness, blatant stupidity, disregard for how one's actions negatively affect the lives of others. Violent, dangerous people, senseless waste, self destruction, greed, irrational behavior, and cigarette butts. What I do to express it depends on the options I see available and what positive potential effect I see in them. I can't fix the whole world, sometimes the best I can do is avoid the parts of it that I don't enjoy and focus my energy on those that I do.
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    And I never answered 16

    What excites your contempt and how do you express it (something like that)?

    Not a lot really. Contempt is seeing someone else as inferior based on some traits/actions. I try to avoid that sort of thing. Even if it's an action I wouldn't take, I try to see people on my level, and get angry at them in the same way I'd get angry at myself if I did the same.

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    Ha something boring's ISTP friend. Devil, thy name is Procrastination.

    Arg, ok I'll fill out the survey, it beats doing work.
    Sounds like you pressured him into it SB.
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