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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity View Post
    Unfortunately that's not the case: Dysthymia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I don't subscribe to the "order/disorder" theory.
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    ^It's good if you don't experience it (not sure if you're saying that).. but it's kind of harsh to say she may be naturally depressed. I've felt like shit on and off since her age too. Started with bad hair day at 9. Evolved into some massive bullshit in my teens. Uh.. among other things. Nuff said. I don't want to get too serious about it. I know though that medications meant for depressive disorders helped my mood at least - but they also screwed up my metabolism, so I got off, and just deal with shit if it pops up. Not always easy, but my point is.. there's obviously something right about the diagnosis, for the medicines to work somewhat. And it's not conducive to survival at all, so why would it be natural?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcda View Post
    resentful and jealous of others, feeling inferior and inaquate.

    but maybe he is esfp.
    i know i experienced all that as well during my periods of depression. i hated when people spoke positively about others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    I don't subscribe to the "order/disorder" theory.
    i mean, there are cases where people have an imbalance of some sort which may effect mood. lack of serotonin, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    I don't subscribe to the "order/disorder" theory.
    So be it, the medical profession doesn't share your view though.

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    i find it insulting for people to be like their's no hope for you, your just that way. why don't i go fucking hang myself hmmmmm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    i mean, there are cases where people have an imbalance of some sort which may effect mood. lack of serotonin, etc.
    Is anyone truly "balanced?" I doubt it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity View Post
    So be it, the medical profession doesn't share your view though.
    Yeah, that's true about a lot of issues. The "medical profession" also incorporates a lot of people who disagree with each other on many things, and who change their minds often about pretty significant things.

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    i find it insulting for people to be like their's no hope for you, your just that way. why don't i go fucking hang myself hmmmmm?
    I would find that insulting too. I think there's hope for everyone. Sometimes it takes a radical change in habits or lifestyle to break out of a funk, though. I have had periods in my life where I just wished things were better and that didn't do anything. Action is the answer! As it usually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    Is anyone truly "balanced?" I doubt it.



    Yeah, that's true about a lot of issues. The "medical profession" also incorporates a lot of people who disagree with each other on many things, and who change their minds often about pretty significant things.



    I would find that insulting too. I think there's hope for everyone. Sometimes it takes a radical change in habits or lifestyle to break out of a funk, though. I have had periods in my life where I just wished things were better and that didn't do anything. Action is the answer! As it usually is.
    i'm sure. but some are more so than say, the "norm." however, i don't think that a disorder is a permanent state. i've experienced extremely painful, down in the pits of hell, type of depression before. i'm much better now, but something wasn't right for a very long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    My ISFP friend doesn't look like anything when depressed because she drops of the face of the planet. She just becomes so overwhelmed that she withdraws completely from non-essential activities. She can't cope with communication and avoids anything that might conceivably add any potential stress - she is a natural worrier but this just goes into overdrive with depression.

    Its really awful too, not only because I can't help her, but also because I don't even know that something's wrong until afterwards.
    Wow, this description is pretty spot on. Kudos to you for understanding your friend so well, even if it is after the fact.

    I do this exact same thing, and I would suggest that (while you become frustrated by how she handles depression) your friend probably feels bad that this is how she reacts. I do the same things -- I've never really found another way around it. Fortunately my short attention span leaves me bored of fixating on being sad and after a few months I come back around and you wouldn't even be able to tell anything was wrong. Usually when I am going through a spell of depression is when I grow the most and feel somewhat transformed, so there is a silver lining or you and your friend.

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    Well I think I was a fairly unhappy isfp for the bulk of my teenage years, but I think I approached close to actual depression for a few years in my mid 20's, and it took a long while to break through all of those years of getting stuck in my head and becoming healthy and well balanced again. In my teenage years I was withdrawn to the point of not really socially interacting at all- or at least, there wasn't any actual deepness or intimacy, and I had maybe one or two friends. In my 20's it was more an existential crisis and I think also I was working through everything that had accumulated in my teenage years. I do agree with the above poster that the silver lining ends up being more inner awareness and growth, also it's probably resulted in my having developed Ni way more than I otherwise would have, being pretty much 100% in my head- but very unbalanced and unhappy when in that state, very anxious, stuck. I still externally functioned, did some things socially, maintained a job, all of that, but then would be emotionally overwhelmed when home. So yeah.
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