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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectgirl View Post
    Indeed.



    Wait, wha?? slow down there. who proclaimed that? um, INFP sure as heck not. I'm slow to LOVE in the lovey sense. This is all just general assessments (? can't spell) that take time. There is a natural fondness or sexual attraction to ESTP, um yes. That's all we're sayin', correct? That's all I'm agreeing to, for the record. Though I don't speak for the rest of the INFP's, I'll certainly try my bestest...

    ps, I love everyone in a human factoring sorta way. Tis very different from being in love.
    dangit, I'm no expert on this subject... INFP's? Anyone? Someone please help me out here, I'm strugglin'! -crickets-
    I'm confused. I didn't mean "everyone loves us" literally. I meant love and like to be synonymous words there. As in someone who says "I love ice cream". Lost in translation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    No, I know what the type pairs are. I'm just saying that generally speaking ESTps aren't actually ESTPs; they're NTJs.
    What are ISFJs actually?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Leeloo is INFP. She's Fi, rather than Fe. I actually considered ISFP for her, she seems very coordinated, but she's absurdly Si-reliant.
    Leeloo is actually the ISFJ prototype:http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...h-element.html

    And Tyler Durden is an ESTP. Ni is submit to Se with him, not the contrary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    What are ISFJs actually?
    ISFj, or INFj. Mind you though, this isn't a direct transition (this type is that type), they're separate systems; those are just the two types statistically most likely to correspond to yours. ENFPs are most likely to be ENFj, followed by ENFp, but I'm ENTj.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Leeloo is actually the ISFJ prototype:http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...h-element.html
    I wouldn't rule it out, but she does seem Fi more than Fe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    And Tyler Durden is an ESTP. Ni is submit to Se with him, not the contrary.
    Not at all. He is an agent of chaos, but he is not in any way the embodiment thereof. He could qualify as an SP if he'd just started fight club to kick ass, but he didn't. He started it to gain recruits for his own anarchist organization -- and even then he'd be some weird-ass ESFP rather than ESTP. His leadership style, as well as his communication style, is very clearly Te.
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    Not at all. He is an agent of chaos, but he is not in any way the embodiment thereof. He could qualify as an SP if he'd just started fight club to kick ass, but he didn't. He started it to gain recruits for his own anarchist organization -- and even then he'd be some weird-ass ESFP rather than ESTP. His leadership style, as well as his communication style, is very clearly Te.
    I wrote a complete argumentation about why Tyler Durden is an ESTP on the 50 Famous ESTP thread, and I'm to tired to repeat it. I globally think that you underestimate Ni's influences on extroverted sensors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    I wrote a complete argumentation about why Tyler Durden is an ESTP on the 50 Famous ESTP thread, and I'm to tired to repeat it. I globally think that you underestimate Ni's influences on extroverted sensors.
    One- ESTPs are Ni-inferior. It's tough to underestimate the influence of an inferior function. Two- Tyler Durden is a clear Te user. Three- in the ESTP thread you tried to make Sarko being an ESTP a valid argument for Tyler Durden being another, which is a logical fallacy, made worse by the fact Sarko himself isn't an ESTP - he's ENTJ. An ESTP politician would be... Joe Biden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    What are ISFJs actually?
    There's no straight answer since ISFjs have Fi and Se, while ISFp has Fe and Si.. and Fi/Fe, Si/Se are defined slightly different (same could be said for other functions). One thing tho is there is a lot more take-charge/less chill nature with Se types (ISFj, ISTj), and a more laid back nature/comfort oriented nature with Si (ISFp, ISTp). Nobody knows how to relax (and encourage others to) like an ISTP or ISFP -even when they're doing something. Lots of awareness for physical states, stuff like that.

    Another thing is just looking at duals and semi duals. ISxp's think ENxps are awesome in the same way INxp thinks ESxp is. ISxj has ENxj as duals/semi-duals.

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    I do find it interesting that ESTPs seem to be less hated than ESFPs. You'd think that ESFPs would be more potentially annoying, but ESTPs would be more potentially dangerous.

    Actually...maybe I've just answered my own question...
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