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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcockburn View Post
    I'd like to step out of that ivory tower, but I can't figure out the damn LOCK. :steam:

    You just approach it with the attitude of "I'm not dumb, so I can do this."
    Then it's just step by step. If this, then this. If this, then this. If not, go back one step on the decision branch. Patience, interest, experimentation. And don't begin with unwarranted assumptions or your branch won't bear fruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stellar renegade View Post
    Several of us are locksmiths, I'm sure.


    Yeah, it doesn't even faze me when somebody calls me stupid. I am what I am, Sam I am.

    It DOES annoy me when somebody criticizes what I do or my work, though. :steam:
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDP2525 View Post
    I'd reckon to say that most SP's don't care to prove ourselves to anyone but ourselves.

    This is why others may not know how mind-blowingly brilliant we are.
    ahem... don't mean to call anyone out... but i think our esfp counterparts are a little different in that arena. but for most SP's... ISFP, ISTP, ESTP... this is typically the case. we don't like to stand out, don't need to stand out, and don't need to prove ourselves to anyone. well said, mdp2525.
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    Don't ESTPs love the spotlight and recognition?
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    possibly... i can't say i know of any. i was really making assumptions... which i just shouldn't ever do. better just say... it's the isfp's and istp's that have no desire to prove anything to anyone else. but i suppose that could go with any introvert then?
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    Except INTJs.

    EDIT: On further reflection, maybe ESTPs aren't that fond of the spotlight. The ones I know (and several of my closest friends are ESTP) don't exactly hate it, but they don't actively seek it out either. They're just chill.
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    I get annoyed if I see someone getting too much undeserved credit at something they haven't shown to be all that good at. The ability to sell makes it so easy for some people to not appear dull. Presentation is cool and all if they actually are skilled.. But when they're not, I'm a little disgusted. So every once in awhile I pop out around these people. It's just rare cases when I can just show what I can do though.

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    PEST that STEPs on PETS stellar renegade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    hahaha, such an sp response.
    I'm honestly like a really clever animal. I readily admit that because I don't care to be seen as some intellectual snot. I got a huge vocabulary from my NT dad but had to tone it down because people started seeing me as such a geek or just a really wordy bastard.

    I was pretty good at philosophy up to a point. After that all I cared about was booze and p*ssy.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeafAndSky View Post
    You just approach it with the attitude of "I'm not dumb, so I can do this."
    Then it's just step by step. If this, then this. If this, then this. If not, go back one step on the decision branch. Patience, interest, experimentation. And don't begin with unwarranted assumptions or your branch won't bear fruit.
    hahaha. Such a Rational (NT) response. (I don't know what you are.)

    Quote Originally Posted by mrcockburn View Post
    Damn you, you Cat in the Hat. Now I'm craving green eggs and ham.

    *Stomps over ferociously to the SP Comfort Food thread*
    Don't you know if it's green, it's probably way past time to throw it out? Don't ever get diet recommendations from a druggie again.

    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    ahem... don't mean to call anyone out... but i think our esfp counterparts are a little different in that arena. but for most SP's... ISFP, ISTP, ESTP... this is typically the case. we don't like to stand out, don't need to stand out, and don't need to prove ourselves to anyone. well said, mdp2525.
    No, no, not at all. I have to stand out or I'll feel like I'm stuck in a closet with no air, or a mindless drone with a number stamped on my forehead. I definitely need to stand out, or at least be felt as a strong presence. I think that's true to some degree of all SPs.

    I'm constantly on the watch for people noticing me, and sometimes I'm a bit quick to imagine that they are when they aren't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Don't ESTPs love the spotlight and recognition?
    Yep. Not that I like to hog it, but I definitely love getting my adequate air-time. Sometimes I do end up grabbing more attention than others, though. When I did a presentation with our group at school on Seattle tattoo culture, I ended up talking or showing vids for probably half or more of the 40 minutes we were up there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Except INTJs.
    Eh? Why INTJs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    EDIT: On further reflection, maybe ESTPs aren't that fond of the spotlight. The ones I know (and several of my closest friends are ESTP) don't exactly hate it, but they don't actively seek it out either. They're just chill.
    Oh, I always find a way to be noticed, automatically. I wouldn't say it's always conscious or even unintentional, but I usually end up doing something that attracts attention in some way, especially with how crazy and unconventional I am.
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    Woah... you live in Seattle dude?

    EDIT: Yeah, should have seen your listed location earlier... Man I love that city! Lived there for about 3 years.

    Oh, and INTJs are power-hungry little bastards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stellar renegade View Post
    No, no, not at all. I have to stand out or I'll feel like I'm stuck in a closet with no air, or a mindless drone with a number stamped on my forehead. I definitely need to stand out, or at least be felt as a strong presence. I think that's true to some degree of all SPs.
    I think it's true too.. But it's like I just want to limit presence to action/skills/etc.. I can't sustain presence in terms of words. There were times, especially when younger, when I've jumped on top of tables and just got in the faces of everyone around me . But I feel like.. beside myself when doing it...and guilty (for some good reasons, but whatever). Definitely doesn't come natural to me.

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