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    Default SPs, do you consider yourself...

    a philosopher?

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    Nope. I have no interest in such high minded twaddle.

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    *look of horror* oh God no!!!
    “Oh, we're always alright. You remember that. We happen to other people.” -Terry Pratchett

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    I am sure that most of you have seen this:
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    Here are some interesting facts about ISTP personality types. If you'd like to find out if you're this type, you can take the genuine Myers-Briggs Type Indicator® online now by clicking on the image to the left. You can take different versions of the test, including the expanded Step II with the 20 subscales. Look at the sample reports before you decide.

    Highly represented among male college scholarship athletes.

    In national sample "Leisure Activities," overrepresented in "Playing with computers or video games"; underrepresented in "Listening to music" and "Writing."

    Academic subjects preferred: math, practical skills.

    Highest of all types in national sample liking work environments with "Independence & achievement"; include among top 3 desirable work characteristics "Clear structure" and "Variety of tasks."

    Most important feature of an ideal job: "A stable and secure future."

    In national sample, dissatisfied with "Promotions" in their work.

    In national sample, among top 4 types valuing "Autonomy."

    With INFJs, ranked first among all the types in using spiritual/philosophical coping resources.

    In national sample, ranked lowest in reporting stress associated with "Balancing home and work."

    In national sample, highest in coping with stress by "Getting upset or angry and not showing it."

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    no. I have better things to do with my time and brain.

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    Well, technically, biology is called natural philosophy in certain schools.

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    I'm glad I'm not involved with those schools then. Science is pretty damn distant from philosophy.

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    Yes, I would say I am. Not in the sense that I am in philosophy (hated it), but in the sense that I take ethics very seriously, or the study of it anyway, very seriously.

    I don't see "real" philosophy as sitting around talking about what a person a few hundred years ago thought. I want to talk about real problems, right now, and how to solve them. Yes, the concepts in philosophy are important... but you can pick most of them up within a year. Most of the study after that loses all practical meaning.

    Stuff like fallacies, argument, good knowledge, moral calculation... that's what you worry about if you are serious about philosophy - if you want to live it rather than think it.

    Which pretty much states why I think "?"'s post applies to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    Science is pretty damn distant from philosophy.
    Actually, they are very much related because they revolve around logic (many philosophers were also mathematicians). Philosophy is more a science than a religion. It's a science that seeks to understand existence.

    In religion, there is no attempt to understand, just to obey out of fear.

    First comes religion, which is basically the rule book that no one questions. Then comes science, which seeks to understand the rules. And lastly is philosophy, where personal perceptions are transformed, potentially making both religion and science irrelevant. In a sense, philosophy is what lets people become God, because after philosophy, the cycle repeats itself, spawning new religions and then new understandings, and so forth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Actually, they are very much related because they revolve around logic (many philosophers were also mathematicians). Philosophy is more a science than a religion. It's a science that seeks to understand existence.
    Yes, they both use logic. The difference is that science uses logic as a tool to accomplish something, and philosophy uses it to accomplish nothing.

    Religion is not really relevant here.

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