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    Personally, I'm just going to go with T for now. I think I type as ISFP sometimes because I "indulge" a bit in that side of myself. I don't think I go as far as ISFPs though.. (and I don't think they're inferior for being more F either btw. I'm a little envious. It seems to come easier for them.).

    Secondly, a lot of my emotions are intense and negative to boot. I read this about ISTPs and it's more like me:

    An ISTP who is over-stressed may exhibit rash emotional outbursts of anger, or on the other extreme may be overwhelmed by emotions and feelings which they feel compelled to share with people (often inappropriately). An ISTP who is down on themself will foray into the world of value judgments - a place which is not natural for the ISTP - and judge themself by their inability to perform some task. They will then approach the task in a grim emotional state, expecting the worst.

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    ISTps have difficulty in controlling their emotions. When they do loose control, they may become biting, rough and excited, raising their voice and gesticulating fervently.

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    But because they need such a lot of flexibility to be as spontaneous as they feel they must be, they tend to become as inflexible as the most rigid J when someone seems to be threatening their lifestyle (although they usually respond with a classic SP rage which is yet another vivid contrast to their "dormant," impassive, detached mode).


    I'm beginning to think that even INTJs and ISTJs have better grasp of F than I do.

    To try to stay relevant to the thread, do any ISFPs just... feel the same as those above descriptions sometimes? I wonder how much overlap there is with the two types. I can be a nice person, but I'd feel like a fraud if I don't own up to the angrier side. I'm no saint. I wish I was. Same goes with being overwhelmed by positive feelings. I might be a little too open and intense if it gets the best of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tawanda View Post
    Do you guys generally forgive others easily after a period of time?
    Mostly I forgive easily over time. There are some situations I have held on to for a long time only to recognise my own part in it all. Smaller stuff doesn't seem to stay with me long, I seem to move on quick, quicker than others.


    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Personally, I'm just going to go with T for now. I think I type as ISFP sometimes because I "indulge" a bit in that side of myself. I don't think I go as far as ISFPs though.. (and I don't think they're inferior for being more F either btw. I'm a little envious. It seems to come easier for them.).

    Secondly, a lot of my emotions are intense and negative to boot. I read this about ISTPs and it's more like me:

    An ISTP who is over-stressed may exhibit rash emotional outbursts of anger, or on the other extreme may be overwhelmed by emotions and feelings which they feel compelled to share with people (often inappropriately). An ISTP who is down on themself will foray into the world of value judgments - a place which is not natural for the ISTP - and judge themself by their inability to perform some task. They will then approach the task in a grim emotional state, expecting the worst.

    _

    ISTps have difficulty in controlling their emotions. When they do loose control, they may become biting, rough and excited, raising their voice and gesticulating fervently.

    _

    But because they need such a lot of flexibility to be as spontaneous as they feel they must be, they tend to become as inflexible as the most rigid J when someone seems to be threatening their lifestyle (although they usually respond with a classic SP rage which is yet another vivid contrast to their "dormant," impassive, detached mode).


    I'm beginning to think that even INTJs and ISTJs have better grasp of F than I do.

    To try to stay relevant to the thread, do any ISFPs just... feel the same as those above descriptions sometimes? I wonder how much overlap there is with the two types. I can be a nice person, but I'd feel like a fraud if I don't own up to the angrier side. I'm no saint. I wish I was. Same goes with being overwhelmed by positive feelings. I might be a little too open and intense if it gets the best of me.
    I can relate to those descriptions. When I do get angry I respond like this...

    ISTps have difficulty in controlling their emotions. When they do loose control, they may become biting, rough and excited, raising their voice and gesticulating fervently.

    ...although it doesn't happen often. Thankfully... forgiveness can take a long time.

    Also, I'm more reserved than open with emotions.

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    That intense openness has come about in some dating situations. It doesn't seem to serve me well though. I'm a lot better off when they saw me as cool. The minute I actually admit my feelings it doesn't get me anywhere good

    Makes me wonder how many musicians, artists, etc are actually STPs and NTPs. Quite a lot of them are intense, brash, sometimes positive, sometimes full of bitterness, rage, or confusion on love or goodness. Same goes for some actors.. Angelina Jolie and James Dean are usually considered ISTP, but they have an intense emotional character. They're hardly Clint Eastwood or some shit. And the actual famous SFPs are seeming more like Paul McCartney or Lenny Kravitz. More light, cheerful. If MBTI is asking me to be more like that, then I'm not capable of it.

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    I think there is just a lot of overlap. It is easy when it's clear cut, otherwise you are a mix. You know, I related to Clint Eastwood a lot in the documentary I saw on him. Wolverine is volatile like that as a character too, emotionally. In the movies at least, I haven't read the comics.

    I like isxp at the moment. I find it freeing.

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    I'm curious to ask, if your F tendencies have a spiritual bent? Or were you always kind of Fi? Is this what makes you stay "ISXP"?

    I did some things I'm proud of as a kid.. and I think I was always sensitive to others to who weren't getting treated well.. not to mention I was notorious for bringing home stray animals.. and whine if my parents didn't adopt them.. but I don't think I had a fleshed out value system until much later - I once stole from nuns (some cake at their bake sale). I mean, how low can you get? That isn't even the thick of it either. That all said, you could say I had one of those typical awakening experiences. I reformed myself. At first, it was Christian, and then as I got more curious, my spirituality took a more general direction, and I started appreciating a little of everything. My mom was already Buddhist, so that was an early stop, but I just started seeing the common thread in a lot of viewpoints. This is how I see my F side.. as something I learned and borrowed.

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    I have always had a spiritual side, at least an interest in it all. There isn't much of a reason I stay isxp. I was thinking about F and sensitivity the other day. One of the reasons I decided on isfp initially was sensitivity. But lately I just wonder if I just get pissed off pretty easy, you know? What is sensitivity anyway. I guess the main reason is I can see all the rest of it clearly but the f and t messes with my head. It feels confining. Even when I had it as isfp I still felt in the middle. I just liked the look of it. I think I relate to the istp in Lenore Thompson's book more than isfp, though I can relate to both in a lot of descriptions and in her book.Think about characters, what makes Han Solo so istp? I mean really? What? Nothing much when you really get down to it. Why not isfp?

    If the juice in mbti is in developing the second function it doesn't matter anyway.

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    Yeah.. same with Spike Spiegel. He's a do-gooder, right? But an irritable one, who would rather not bend over backwards at first. Which is no different than me really. I always have these moments where I come to F, after just grumbling about it. Han Solo the same.. he's pretty annoyed that he's even dragged into the story in the first place. Then at the end movie, he gets a medal for it. When I wax all philosophical about good and evil alone, I feel pretty F. Put me in real situations as they're happening though, and I may forget about some of it.. my instinct is different.

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    Yeah, Spike is like Han Solo, he isn't really for any cause but when push comes to shove his heart is in the right place. As an aside Kyuuei once said I gave a Cowboy Bebop vibe on here. What higher compliment is there than that? Another reason I chose isfp is 'cause I have an interest in design, but then again I came from the angle of the principles of design. So yeah...

    Quite a few people said istp lately. I should start one of those what type threads with maybe a poll or something.

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    Then this is where you would be more Ti. I don't have principles of design. Hardly any system to speak of. I haven't drawn anything in awhile, but I kind of wing it. Guitar playing even more so. I always identified with some descriptions about John Coltrane - that he was searching in the middle of his compositions. My favorite guitar player is Tom Verlaine. He's the same way.. Hendrix the same. He never played anything the same way twice.

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    I like that kind of style, Stevie Ray Vaughn was like that. I just did a quick search and there was a huge list of isfp musicians and PJ Harvey as istp. She constructs her albums by the sound of it. I think that I'd go about it, learning the principles and kind of constructing it, that is what I do in life really.

    To me things feel like learning the ropes then squeezing and pulling what you want out of it. Like you use the rules but make it your own. Is that Ti? Maybe.

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