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    PEST that STEPs on PETS stellar renegade's Avatar
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    Also, if SPs aren't good at art, then where does our talent lie? That's the trouble with pinning all creativity on abstractoids. You guys are intellectual, diplomatic, meaningful, visionary, intensely smart and passionate, AND you're the most creative and best troubleshooters? Then what the fuck is left for US?

    Oh, right, I forgot... idiocy and zero personal skills. :rolli: :steam:
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    omg, I'm totally one of the best troubleshooters I know!

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    true, my favorite jobs were always those in which I had to think on my feet and troubleshoot- I was elected unanimously to a position where I had to do that 3 years in a row in my professional frat (until I gave up and worked as an assistant my last year!)

    oh! don't forget playing football, scratching balls, making fart jokes, wearing body glitter and stuffing all of the poor Ns into their lockers as Sensor skills!
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    you don't get my sense of humor
    i've been here only for a short time, but i think your posts have been funny

    that bit is totally false, btw... a lot of S people i know have a great sense of humor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stellar renegade View Post
    Also, if SPs aren't good at art, then where does our talent lie? That's the trouble with pinning all creativity on abstractoids. You guys are intellectual, diplomatic, meaningful, visionary, intensely smart and passionate, AND you're the most creative and best troubleshooters? Then what the fuck is left for US?

    Oh, right, I forgot... idiocy and zero personal skills. :rolli: :steam:
    Hahahahahhahaa, I think I just fell in love with you, I am laughing hysterically!!!

    You had me at "abstractoids"







    Your post coupled with your avatar is PERFECTION!!!

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    I'm still fucking laughing!!!

    I just imagine the dude in your avatar saying it, brilliant!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stellar renegade View Post
    Also, if SPs aren't good at art, then where does our talent lie? That's the trouble with pinning all creativity on abstractoids. You guys are intellectual, diplomatic, meaningful, visionary, intensely smart and passionate, AND you're the most creative and best troubleshooters? Then what the fuck is left for US?

    Oh, right, I forgot... idiocy and zero personal skills. :rolli: :steam:
    You're right of course man, but let me just say that half of the people in your tag are not ESTPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    I've run across the following stereotypes about people with S in their type while browsing through the site and wanted other opinions on these myths- are they fact or fiction?

    (I personally think that they're all bullshit- well, maybe the attention whore thing applies to ALL ExxPs, but in general, these "theories" are completely idiotic! )
    These characteristics are individual values and behaviors, not cognitive processes.

    sensors don't like math

    *sigh* Sensors kick butt at math, as often as not. Mostly due to the next stereotype.

    sensors are extremely detail oriented

    Some are, some aren't. I dislike the "detail oriented" vs "abstract theory" descriptions of S vs N. N works well with abstract theory, but needs details to ground the theories. S works well with details, but that isn't the same as being detail-oriented. It's more like being aware of the world around you (Se) or being aware of what you have experienced (Si).

    attention whores

    How the heck did this become an S stereotype? ENFP anyone? ENFJ? ENTP?


    less than loyal

    At what point did SJ stereotypes get lumped in with SP stereotypes? I'd think the Ns would be more likely characterized as less loyal, if anything. (Not that the characterization is true either way.)


    sensors don't understand the internet
    Hardly. I do think, however, that there is a affinity between INxx and the internet. "I" likes being able to socialize without being extroverted and dealing with people face to face, while "N" is well suited to using text as a substitute for reality.

    we are "sheep" and beleive and do what we are told




    sensors don't understand things like personality theory

    Oh really. Tell me more.

    SJs like rules because they're rules, and rules are meant to be followed

    This is one that gets a lot of abuse. It's got enough of a grain of truth that it is believed in a simple way ... by Ns ... :p

    It's more of a predisposition to agree to established rules, even if one disagrees with them.

    sensors aren't smart

    Riiiiight.


    SJs all love jesus... or religion in general

    No, but the equating of SJ with organized religion helps to classify it a bit. My approach to religion has always been a bit off the beaten path.


    sensors aren't very good at the arts, especially writing fiction




    SPs love nothing more than being single or cheating on their SOs

    The best way to dehumanize someone is to say that they really don't understand love or human relationships.

    we're all crazy party animals

    Hey, don't be so quick to disavow this one. INTJs get to debate about how smart we really are. Borrring. INTJs -never- get accused of being party animals.


    no ability to develop a more clever sense of humor/no sense of humor
    How does this kind of thing even make it into a stereotype list? :confused:

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    i think that cheating part is the most ridiculous. who came up with all of this anyway? ... and the party animal part, not all Ss i know even like to party...

    well... i think it's just N frustration, probably. we've been told we're weird and been looked at funny our whole lives, so then some Ns take it out on Ss on internet

    ^ don't take me too seriously now, either. :P

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    sensors don't like math

    --Applied math is fine, so long as I'm not crunching numbers for the sake of crunching numbers. I'm not in a line of work where knowing trig benefits me, but if I was it wouldn't be too hard for me to learn.

    sensors are extremely detail oriented

    --I suppose so? In my line of work I try to cut out as much fluff I can and the details I focus on are necessary

    attention whores

    --I'm an introvert, no attention necessary... But I won't lie and say I hate being in the limelite.

    less than loyal

    --You give what you get, I'm perfectly loyal to my friends, unless they put me in a bad position.

    sensors don't understand the internet

    --False.

    we are "sheep" and beleive and do what we are told

    --False. I am critical of everything, I don't buy into things easily. I hate people who think they are quoting 'facts' they read in magazines or on the internet.

    sensors don't understand things like personality theory

    --Not very well. I get the gyst of it but I start to get lost when people talk about functions.

    SJs like rules because they're rules, and rules are meant to be followed

    --Sure?

    sensors aren't smart

    --Yea ok.

    SJs all love jesus... or religion in general

    --Couldn't say, religion is very prevelant where I am so it wouldn't surprise me.

    sensors aren't very good at the arts, especially writing fiction

    --I play piano and am told I draw above average... Writing stories is a different matter.

    SPs love nothing more than being single or cheating on their SOs

    --Been on my own for a while now, no problems being single, but I have never cheated.... I think. Define a relationship?

    we're all crazy party animals

    --I partied, and still like to party every so often.

    no ability to develop a more clever sense of humor/no sense of humor

    --Humor is subjective, this could be applied to any function.
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