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    Quote Originally Posted by Walking Tourist View Post
    If I had to do school all over again, I would leave as soon as I turned 16 and would have pursued my own education by less traditional means (art studios, private foreign language instruction, libraries, etc.).
    Yes, our society could really use the return of actual apprenticeships for those who have a preference for doing. It is easier in the workshop to understand what geometry is for when you have to use it to realize a practical end.
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    That is a good point. It wasn't until I took a perspective drawing class that I learned that geometry is very useful and practical. In school, I thought, what's the point of this?
    I never much cared for math but, now I can see that math is really a big part of everyday life, from measuring ingredients for baked goods to the aforementioned perspective drawing (figuring out the vanishing point(s) in a painting).
    Getting immediate practical use out of something that I am trying to learn would give me much more motivation to learn it than the future promise of a good grade or something to that effect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hirsch63 View Post
    Yes, our society could really use the return of actual apprenticeships for those who have a preference for doing. It is easier in the workshop to understand what geometry is for when you have to use it to realize a practical end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walking Tourist View Post
    My path has been similar to yours.
    The only classes that I cared about were art and music. English was good when it was creative writing.
    After that, I tried to be another member of my family. Anyone but me. Now I am realizing that the gifts that God has offered me are only good if I use them. I am putting effort into improving my art skills. I try to draw at least one picture a day. I feel happier although I have not been successful according to society's definition of success.
    If I had to do school all over again, I would leave as soon as I turned 16 and would have pursued my own education by less traditional means (art studios, private foreign language instruction, libraries, etc.).
    I was the opposite and enjoyed science, shop, math, and creative writing when I was allowed to write about science, technology, etc.

    I also found a way to get along with everyone in my family on a one-on-one basis. Not becoming them, but understanding them and what they liked and didnt like and how to merge what I like with what they liked. I would go with my mom to bingo to keep her company, but play my gameboy and everyonce in a while play bingo when I felt like it.
    Im out, its been fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Did you go to H.S. in Belize?
    no, i grew up in the USA, i went to school in Los Angeles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hirsch63 View Post
    Yes, our society could really use the return of actual apprenticeships for those who have a preference for doing. It is easier in the workshop to understand what geometry is for when you have to use it to realize a practical end.
    i think so too. i think one of the great things about apprenticeships is that you learn the business and social aspects of the job also.

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    School was okay, except for the racism, the slow pace, the irrational/unfairly applied rules and regulations, the daily gangfights, etc, etc, etc. I enjoy learning and kind of wished that it was the central focus of the staff during my 13 years of public education.
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    Wow, lots of great and interesting responses here.
    It seems that a dislike of arbitrary/irrational/unfairly applied rules and regulations is a common theme. Teachers' failure to tie knowledge to real-world applications that would have illustrated to students the relevance of acquiring that knowledge seemed to be an issue with some responders as well.

    Bringing back apprenticeships is an interesting idea, too. If that were an option, students who were identified at a young age as having particular talents could be encouraged to focus their learning on those particular areas. I think everyone needs a certain amount of general knowledge, though, so a general overview of the main subjects couldn't be completely thrown out. I wish schools would take a more individual approach to educating students instead of trying to apply an SJ-minded "one size fits all" approach, so that all kinds of different kids (who interact with and view the world in different ways) would have the education that best suits them as unique individuals, with unique interests and abilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirsch63 View Post
    Yes, our society could really use the return of actual apprenticeships for those who have a preference for doing. It is easier in the workshop to understand what geometry is for when you have to use it to realize a practical end.
    +1!
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    I did OK. I caught a bad case of senioritis and my steady 3.8 GP dipped to a 2.7 in my final year of highschool. I loved the sciences, and naturally woodshops. I didn't like much math and I absolutely hated English/literature classes (even though my teacher was badass).

    When I went to college also had a full-time job. I enjoyed making money more than going to class. Another thing I completely hated about the college I attended (University of Idaho) was that they had many math classes where you'd have to listen to additional lectures out of class on a computer. That in itself wasn't too bad but you couldn't do this on your own computer, you had to go to a crowded computer lab filled with aging PCs, and had to fumble around with the University's clumsy, beta-ish software to view said lectures and do your assignments.

    With that said, in hindsight, I probably shouldn't have been a moron and quit.
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    Well I'm still stuck there _ I actually do'nt know anything I could possibly hate with more passion.
    I hate rules, schedules, authority and basically all my subjects except for art.
    I'm finished in 4 months though!!!
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    Yes. I hated school because it's never fun being an environment where like 90 percent of everyone there (including teachers) doesn't want to be there. It's like prison for kids.

    Now, specialized schools, that actually let people take classes in things they WANT to learn are a good thing.

    That being said, if I had the ability to go back and re-do school with the knowledge I have now, I think school would totally rock because I could have so much fun that I missed the first time because I was too busy growing up.
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