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    My ISFP friend loves intellectual conversation to a degree. I think he sees it as just another thing to explore. Of course he doesn't always care much for precision or accuracy, he is more of an idea person, so if the conversation starts getting too detailed he loses interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfisher View Post
    what kind of an answer is that? you are just begging for someone to play devils' advocate and demand you explain.
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge View Post
    how?

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    Now I've gone and done it!

    I do like intellectual conversations, it depends on the subject. I can talk your ear off or you might just get a couple of words. I definitely like to think about things like that and enjoy time lost in thought thinking an idea through. Putting ideas in a way that others can understand can be a grind. It is not that my thoughts are so profound, it is just that is simply fun to just think and then move on.

    Having to explain yourself can be a pain in the ass.

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    The yes and no makes sense for ISFP considering that Ni is our tertiary process and can be attributed many times to "deep thought."

    Some say the tertiary function in MBTI is commonly either on or off. If that applied, then it makes sense that some days we are deep, some days we most certainly aren't and there isn't a whole lot of middle ground.

    An ISFP that hasn't focused on building Ni (And Ne) will have a hard time following and enjoying intellectual discussions.

    An ISFP that has developed Ni and Ne will definitely be able to follow and contribute to these types of discussions, but may bore easily if the conversation doesn't seem to have enough practical application or isn't making enough progress I.E. talking in circles.

    I personally loathe beaurocracy and if an intellectual/deep conversation has any sign of either ego, power struggles, or anything else that doesn't advance our knowledge and the truth of the situation, then I have no interest.

    Most times I would be content to joke around with friends and be my goofy self.

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    It just has to be tangible. If it doesn't really apply to anything or if it isn't relevant to my interests I get bored very, very quickly.
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    I do like sharing core thoughts/ideals, but not for long. I *believe* that I sometimes provoke people to dwell on the subject, inquire for more, or challenge, but at that point, I'm already kind of gone. I can talk forever about, say, bands, or foods, or some kind of relationship help for a friend.. But too much theorizing makes me weary. And I'm definitely like the ISFP's mentioned who tend to brush over details.

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    Just to add.. It is strange that I'm big on details when it comes to actions/work/or even just chilling out and taking everything in. And dear lord, I'm my own worst enemy sometimes if I want to create, and have faulty tools (like, say, a fucked up guitar amp).

    Conversationally though, especially with theorizing, my need for details is just not there.

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    It really depends on the subject...but that can be said for anything.

    I can't stand philosophical conversations...I don't want to argue over how we were created or "life purpose" or what not--let's just have some fun while we're here damn it!

    Though I do get interested in religious conversations and how it interacts with culture and the impact it has had throughout history...so some stuff, yeah. Usually not for long periods of time. And if I'm even listening to a political conversation and it gets heated...it angers me even though I've never said a word the whole time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    It just has to be tangible. If it doesn't really apply to anything or if it isn't relevant to my interests I get bored very, very quickly.
    Quote Originally Posted by gdhc08 View Post
    I can't stand philosophical conversations...I don't want to argue over how we were created or "life purpose" or what not--let's just have some fun while we're here damn it!

    Though I do get interested in religious conversations and how it interacts with culture and the impact it has had throughout history...so some stuff, yeah. Usually not for long periods of time. And if I'm even listening to a political conversation and it gets heated...it angers me even though I've never said a word the whole time.
    Yup... This has been a point of frustration with my ISFP bf and I actually.

    Doesn't like talking about theories, possibilities, ideas, or the way things work/happen which I find fascinating. (even in fields he's deeply immersed in) The absolute last topic he'd ever want to talk about would be the meaning of life and how people think.

    Anything that's not literal here and now seems to be highly boring to him. Business, economics, cultures, entrepreneur ideas, processes, science, yeah...

    But then I wonder what the definition of "deep intellectual conversations" actually is, because could be different for types.

    For me, it seems to be a complete lack of Ti and Ni which I love talking about. Ni things fascinate me especially. But these are type specific. I feel like there is really no more depth to him beyond where we are, and I have a whole other private half of myself I haven't been able to share yet.
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    I have little patience for deep intellectual conversations because in my experience people like to hear themselves speak in this kind of interaction, and then the conversation goes off the track into La La Land.

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