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    I was diagnosed with ADD, inattentive, as well and did the adderall thing as well and it made me such a boring person. All I wanted to do was organize. It's like all I was anymore was Te. Dull dull dull. Not to mention my face would become bright red as the medication wore off and I couldn't sleep. Also, you feel kick-ass awesome when it starts to take effect and then it kind of goes down hill. Then there's the fact that you get used to the dose pretty quickly and it stops working so you want to raise it, etc. Next thing you know, you're feeling you're totally dependent on a drug, and it doesn't feel like a prescription thing, more like cocaine. Although maybe for people with full-on ADD it's different. But it did make me feel calmer when it kicked in; it's just when it wore off I was the snappiest bitch ever.

    How I am being part of the ISFP (or SP.. or P) personality makes a lot more sense to me.

    I have friends who teach kids with behavioral problems, many who have ADD, and they say you can totally tell the difference between the kids who really have ADD and those who supposedly do. They say it's night and day, that the kids with full-blown ADD can have a coffee and they are instantly... chill, and otherwise, they are completely unmanageable.

    That's what makes me think inattentive type ADD is just a personality thing, not a disorder. Because yeah, I can focus on what I'm interested in, I just don't like to pay attention to stuff that I think is worthless or stupid. (Not exclusively a guy thing. I am well-known for my selective hearing. It drives my husband nuts.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfisher View Post
    when i took adderall and speed in college for studying they did not do wonders for me. they improved my focus a lot, but i ended up always latching on to the first idea and obsessing over it, running it into the ground. i couldn't get off of that first idea, i just kept beating it to death until i didn't even know what i was thinking about anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne View Post
    Wait... if you can focus on something intently, isn't that basically the opposite of ADD? Or maybe I am misunderstanding ADD.
    That's a good observation... I wonder how many teachers out there are making casual diagnosis? Or suggesting parents take their kids to doctors for pills?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sLiPpY View Post
    uh, noticed a topic developing in another thread and well here we go.

    I had a school teacher that worked part-time on my team, tell me she thought that I had ADD...

    Just because I could focus on something so intently, I wouldn't hear a word that she said. Which led to my reading about ADD of the Inattentive type?

    This was about seven years ago, and I read all kinds of crap.

    Sometimes I'd think how could I be ADD when my ISTP best friend is exactly like me?

    So what!?! I used to not be able to find my keys, or he'd walk out of a store and leave his wallet behind. Right now I always know where my keys are. They're in a basket I place next to the door, which is exactly where I drop and retrieve them from each and every day.

    So guess I'm asking? Is it really ADD or is it simply ISTP?

    Or is it diet? The modern lifestyle vs. just be?
    Keirsey said that ISTPs are commonly diagnosed with ADD/ADHD, which he thought was a complete fraud.


    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    I think I have some Add but I don't take anything...I find it hard to concentrate when someone is explaining pointless crap to me... my Ti would just be wondering about other stuff.
    Heh, I think that would make you normal.

    Quote Originally Posted by sLiPpY View Post
    That's a good observation... I wonder how many teachers out there are making casual diagnosis? Or suggesting parents take their kids to doctors for pills?
    Many teacher's make casual diagnosis because the child's attention does not respond to her voice, her interest, or the sound of an alarm bell. I've worked with children diagnosed with ADD/ADHD and ODD on a volunteer basis for a number of years. I can't begin to tell you the crazy stuff I have seen in this regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sLiPpY View Post
    That's a good observation... I wonder how many teachers out there are making casual diagnosis? Or suggesting parents take their kids to doctors for pills?
    Our school board for our region has a specialist if parents have been advised by teachers that their child might be ADD/ADHD.

    I wonder if some teachers don't have the time or resourses to deal with difficult children. Also I think some parents need to learn some parenting skills for their difficult child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne View Post
    Wait... if you can focus on something intently, isn't that basically the opposite of ADD? Or maybe I am misunderstanding ADD.
    Yes, you are misunderstanding.

    Those with AD(H)D alternate between distraction and hyperfocus. They seek out stimulation to artificially create the chemistry (adrenalin rush) they naturally lack...and this produces the hyperfocus...at all other times, the chemistry is absent and it's just one distraction after another.

    Ritalin et al also creates the artificial chemistry to allow one to better control the ability to focus...never cures it or helps you to do what you really don't want to do, but is very effective in helping your brain push aside distractions when you want it to. This something the person with ADD cannot do naturally. Impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnFpFer View Post
    Keirsey said that ISTPs are commonly diagnosed with ADD/ADHD, which he thought was a complete fraud.
    I read that in the book Please Understand Me. That book is pretty darn old, so I don't know what definition of ADD he was using, because I think it has changed a bit over time to be more specific.

    Maybe I'm just skeptical because I really disliked that ISTP description.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamboo View Post
    I read that in the book Please Understand Me. That book is pretty darn old, so I don't know what definition of ADD he was using, because I think it has changed a bit over time to be more specific.

    Maybe I'm just skeptical because I really disliked that ISTP description.
    The original Please Understand Me was published in 1978, and II(the updated version), was done in the late 90's. There was an update to the DSM-IV in 2000, but criteria has not that changed much since the 70's.

    The Born to Explore website is about as good as it gets(imo), in dealing thoughtfully with ADD and ADHD behaviors in adults and children. Here's a link to their site: Multiple Causes of Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD/ADHD) They take a lot of type theory into serious consideration.

    I have never once worked with a child diagnosed as ADD or ADHD who needed medication after the problem was rooted out dealt with. I'm a real skeptic as a result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    I was diagnosed with ADD, inattentive, as well and did the adderall thing as well and it made me such a boring person. All I wanted to do was organize. It's like all I was anymore was Te. Dull dull dull. Not to mention my face would become bright red as the medication wore off and I couldn't sleep. Also, you feel kick-ass awesome when it starts to take effect and then it kind of goes down hill. Then there's the fact that you get used to the dose pretty quickly and it stops working so you want to raise it, etc. Next thing you know, you're feeling you're totally dependent on a drug, and it doesn't feel like a prescription thing, more like cocaine. Although maybe for people with full-on ADD it's different.

    Yes. COMPLETELY different.

    The brain of person with ADD never shuts up...CONSTANT chatter in there...those without ADD have no idea what that is like.

    When I took my first Ritalin pill, the chatter stopped. It was amazing...I could actually focus on what was in front of me without distractions.

    Another thing about those of us with ADD ..we never become addicted to or dependent upon our medication...in fact, we often forget to take it...and only remember when we find ourselves in another circle of distraction.

    ADD is real. I live it every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnFpFer View Post

    I have never once worked with a child diagnosed as ADD or ADHD who needed medication after the problem was rooted out dealt with. I'm a real skeptic as a result.

    Then you have never worked with a child who has ADD. It's a chemical issue, not a behavioral or moral issue. Denying ADD is like denying the existence of schizophrenia. Utter nonsense. Literally: no sense. At all. None.

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