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    I'm a firm believer that people don't change.

    So if the offense is small, or it is an offense I probably won't bother me if it happens again, then I'm forgiving. Otherwise I'm pretty much zero tolerance on bullshit.
    ...Then I ducked my head and the lights went out, and two guns blazed in the dark;
    And a woman screamed, and the lights went up, and two men lay stiff and stark...

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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    We have obviously had to deal with much different problems in life. I grew up with my dual for 18 years, then have been with my conflicting pair for 11 or 12 years. I agree 100% an ISTP can suddenly break off a long term relationship seemingly out of no where, but you seem to miss the other side of the spectrum about intentions. This is the little twist that people put on actions and why they do them. This is what I believe drives the ENFP to ask themselves "why"(not always an external why), this is what drives the ENFJ into self-deception. This is what ISTPs look at without asking why. We first analyze the functional or objective side regardless of intention, then we will get to the intentions later. But honestly if the functional or objective side works then nada problema. Live and let live.

    My motto would be more along the lines of "you cant argue with what works"
    LOL. One can always argue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willfrey View Post
    I'm a firm believer that people don't change.

    So if the offense is small, or it is an offense I probably won't bother me if it happens again, then I'm forgiving. Otherwise I'm pretty much zero tolerance on bullshit.
    You must be young (i.e., under 50). People do change. All the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McRumi View Post
    You must be young (i.e., under 50). People do change. All the time.
    Ah yes, the age argument. You know what, you're completely right, you win.
    ...Then I ducked my head and the lights went out, and two guns blazed in the dark;
    And a woman screamed, and the lights went up, and two men lay stiff and stark...

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    excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McRumi View Post
    You must be young (i.e., under 50). People do change. All the time.
    If I have to wait 50 years for someone to change, forget it.
    Check out my blog: http://OrnateRitual.com

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    For some people we ISTPs befriend, it' s the perfect amount of time to elapse before that next call. I love how we can hold relationships in suspended animation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McRumi View Post
    For some people we ISTPs befriend, it' s the perfect amount of time to elapse before that next call. I love how we can hold relationships in suspended animation.
    Hum. I wanted to respond to this, but I think I'm speechless.

    It's interesting that one of my favorite songs have lyrics that says exactly the same thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinel View Post
    Hum. I wanted to respond to this, but I think I'm speechless.

    It's interesting that one of my favorite songs have lyrics that says exactly the same thing...
    I want to know what the song is. :confused:

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    Quote Originally Posted by sLiPpY View Post
    I want to know what the song is. :confused:
    It's not in English, but the title is "Alchemy."

    So the lyrics is about getting a person to love the speaker, even if she had to wait for 50 years, kind of like in alchemy, creating gold is an arduous process. I wouldn't say it's a song that's particularly attractive to SLIs as it is SEI. Since only emotional aspects are mentioned, but not concepts. But then, who can confidently say that there is a T/F distinction in love?
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