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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebe View Post
    I met an ESTP and I can guess that he wants someone

    - very physically attractive
    - assertive and can hold her own
    - but soft and feminine and gentle
    - very open and laid back sense of humor
    - someone who can wrestle and tackle him to the ground for fun
    - someone who talks a good amount so that he doesn't have to
    - very smart
    Yeah, but both of these apply to INFP and INFJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebe View Post
    I met an ESTP and I can guess that he wants someone

    - very physically attractive
    - assertive and can hold her own
    - but soft and feminine and gentle
    - very open and laid back sense of humor
    - someone who can wrestle and tackle him to the ground for fun
    - someone who talks a good amount so that he doesn't have to
    - very smart
    Yeah, but both of these apply to INFP and INFJ.

    INFJ's will naturally act as tactful translators for ESTP's. INFP's will try to tell the ESTP how to speak properly, but it'll only be naturally interpreted as criticism by ESTP's.
    INFJ's will use their Ni to predict the consequences of ESTP's actions. INFP's are not known for such a talent.
    INFJ's will be invigorated by the ESTP's crude roughhousing nature as the ESTP brings out the INFJ's Se, INFP's will be turned off or try to nullify the ESTP's energy and get them to calm down, which isn't what ESTP's want.

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    I can't speak for all ESTPs, but I personally look for someone to shower me with their Fe, being socially smooth and all (unlike me, I can get a little too blunt sometimes). That ethereal Ni stuff is also nice too.

    It's like "SHOWER ME IN ALL OF YOUR INSIGHTFUL AFFECTIONS, KTHANKS."
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    I don't think INFPs or INFJs are ideal types for ESTPs necessarily, though I have never seen or met an ESTP-INFJ couple. I was just putting down traits. I didn't mean me or INFPs.

    Wouldn't ESTPs like Fe or Si doms? There is a major communication disconnect I feel between Se and Ni, Se and Ne. ESTPs do have this realllllyy crass sense of humor that I actually do find off-putting. It's funny sometimes...but only sometimes.

    "As far as duality goes, lets not mix up INFp with INFP. ESTP's dual is Ni Fe which is INFJ. INFJ's are crude, INFP's are not."

    But let's not immediately associate socionics INFp with typology/myers briggs INFP. Socionics is really confusing to me. I read that in introverts, you switch the P with the J. But how does that make sense? And if duality is ideal, that means socionics INFps should be with ESTJs? What?!

    http://www.socionics.com/articles/howto.htm

    "INFJ's will naturally act as tactful translators for ESTP's. INFP's will try to tell the ESTP how to speak properly, but it'll only be naturally interpreted as criticism by ESTP's.
    INFJ's will use their Ni to predict the consequences of ESTP's actions. INFP's are not known for such a talent.
    INFJ's will be invigorated by the ESTP's crude roughhousing nature as the ESTP brings out the INFJ's Se, INFP's will be turned off or try to nullify the ESTP's energy and get them to calm down, which isn't what ESTP's want."

    Lol...that's exactly what I wanted to do. Along the lines of ... can you stop being so mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetani View Post
    I can't speak for all ESTPs, but I personally look for someone to shower me with their Fe, being socially smooth and all (unlike me, I can get a little too blunt sometimes). That ethereal Ni stuff is also nice too.

    It's like "SHOWER ME IN ALL OF YOUR INSIGHTFUL AFFECTIONS, KTHANKS."
    Wow! That is so nice to hear for a change about Fe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Arendee View Post

    INFJ's are crude, INFP's are not.
    What does this mean?
    Dirt Farmer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebe View Post
    I don't think INFPs or INFJs are ideal types for ESTPs necessarily, though I have never seen or met an ESTP-INFJ couple. I was just putting down traits. I didn't mean me or INFPs.

    Wouldn't ESTPs like Fe or Si doms? There is a major communication disconnect I feel between Se and Ni, Se and Ne. ESTPs do have this realllllyy crass sense of humor that I actually do find off-putting. It's funny sometimes...but only sometimes.

    "As far as duality goes, lets not mix up INFp with INFP. ESTP's dual is Ni Fe which is INFJ. INFJ's are crude, INFP's are not."

    But let's not immediately associate socionics INFp with typology/myers briggs INFP. Socionics is really confusing to me. I read that in introverts, you switch the P with the J. But how does that make sense? And if duality is ideal, that means socionics INFps should be with ESTJs? What?!

    http://www.socionics.com/articles/howto.htm

    "INFJ's will naturally act as tactful translators for ESTP's. INFP's will try to tell the ESTP how to speak properly, but it'll only be naturally interpreted as criticism by ESTP's.
    INFJ's will use their Ni to predict the consequences of ESTP's actions. INFP's are not known for such a talent.
    INFJ's will be invigorated by the ESTP's crude roughhousing nature as the ESTP brings out the INFJ's Se, INFP's will be turned off or try to nullify the ESTP's energy and get them to calm down, which isn't what ESTP's want."

    Lol...that's exactly what I wanted to do. Along the lines of ... can you stop being so mean?
    ESTP INFJ combo is like these:




    Also, I'd venture to say the two in avatar are INFJ ESTP but I don't actually know what sam worthington is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheStarchDefenders View Post
    What does this mean?
    INFJ is the type of person who would make a joke along the lines of, "come, make yourself at home, the door is open. eat my food, shit in my toilet, sleep with my wife if need be."

    crude jokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    Wow! That is so nice to hear for a change about Fe.
    Yeahh. In a forum filled with NeFi I thought it'd be a nice change to show Fe some love it deserves. <3
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