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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    George W. Bush is a 7w8 or 8w7 in disguise, not a 9. have you seen what he's like off the job? the guy is too Id to function
    Hem, it's the contrary. He's a 9 who projects an image of 8w7 when he's connected to the point 3. Other than that, he's actually an indolent man without strong self-postition who's just the puppet of the Washighton hawks. He is a depraved drunkard outside of his job, but doesn't have the decisive, strong and tough attitude of a 8w7 or the mentaly agile and sociopathic attitude of an 8w7.

    also, you forgot James Dean: ESTP 4w5 Sx/Sp
    ISFP 4w5 Sx/Sp. This guy had not Ti, and was really behind the scene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    ISFP 4w5 Sx/Sp. This guy had not Ti, and was really behind the scene.
    I guess I gave up and jumped on the ESTP band wagon, but ISFP makes a lot more sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    I guess I gave up and jumped on the ESTP band wagon, but ISFP makes a lot more sense
    Yeah.

    Also, look at Sarko, and Kennedy, who are true 8w7 and 7w8 ESTPs, the difference is pretty clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    A list of ESTP that i made, with their enneatypes:

    6w7 sx/so Milla Jovovich http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKZvUjTaDA0
    ESTJ, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    ESTJ, I think.
    A socionic ESTj, yes: http://www.socionics.us/celebrities/lse.shtml

    Though, I think she is ESTP on MBTI. ESTJ testify about being serious, rule-follower teenagers who forget to have fun. Milla testifies about being a loyal but rebelious, reckless and rule breaking teenager. It's very visible in interviews, she has a lot of energy, she always need to move. SP, not SJ/ Also, I don't see Si, but clearly Se.

    In MBTI, the difference J/P is between judgers and explorers, and, well, she's pretty much an explorer.

    On that link, she's compared to Sandra Bernhard, an ESTp, I think she may be an ESTP too, and a 6w5 Sx/So (which explains also why she's similar to the 6w7 Sx/So Milla J).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    A socionic ESTj, yes: http://www.socionics.us/celebrities/lse.shtml

    Though, I think she is ESTP on MBTI. ESTJ testify about being serious, rule-follower teenagers who forget to have fun. Milla testifies about being a loyal but rebelious, reckless and rule breaking teenager. It's very visible in interviews, she has a lot of energy, she always need to move. SP, not SJ/ Also, I don't see Si, but clearly Se.

    In MBTI, the difference J/P is between judgers and explorers, and, well, she's pretty much an explorer.

    On that link, she's compared to Sandra Bernhard, an ESTp, I think she may be an ESTP too, and a 6w5 Sx/So (which explains also why she's similar to the 6w7 Sx/So Milla J).
    I think ESTJs are pretty energetic. All EJs I've known were workaholics. And ESTJs active in SP type of ways too. A friend of mine is a semi pro bike racer. Better than me at some things. When we were kids he was annoyingly competitive too. Always had to cut in, or get in front of everyone to be the "leader". I'd get in fights with him because of it. He might pass for an ESTP "activity wise", but he at least tests ESTJ. He doesn't strike me as ESTP either. He's not that wild, in general.

    As for rule following.. I don't know if it's type related. Some are merely "late bloomers" and get out of their familial influence later than others and reevaluate some things. What they never aren't is impulsive or good with a lot of oncoming information (I think they'd rather control the flow of information, and maybe set aside new things to look at later). I don't think it necessarily has anything to do with their philosophy on society. Their sense of order is more subtle. That same friend above will completely lose it if the "unknown" happens during day-to-day or work situations. Say, if traffic grinds to a halt or a sudden change in plans happens for the night. Then you see his control freak/orderly side. It could lead to a higher philosophy on how they might want order in society, but I doubt it.

    Anyways.. I'm kind of derailing now. We're talking about Milla. I'm open to ESTP, I guess.

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    Helena Bonham Carter


    She kind of confuses me with ENFJ, but she's too nonchalant. Compare Madonna, Asia Argento or Mae West. I think Kenneth Branagh (her ex husband) is the real ENFJ, and her current (Tim Burton), another NF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    I have some different opinions.

    Non Fictional

    Franklin Delano Rossevelt (why because D.Keirsey said it?)
    John Fitzgerald Kennedy (ESFP)
    Georges W Bush Jr (ESFP)
    Mick Jagger (ESFP)


    Fictional
    Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
    Jack Sparrow (Pirates of the Caribbean) ????????? ESTP?
    Sonic The Edgehog (He is probably the BEST ESTP example in the world)
    Johnny Bravo (ESFP)
    The Genie (Alladin) (?)
    Sonic was my hero all through childhood. He listened to heavy metal and drum'n'bass. Now he's a lame emo punk rocker.

    And sally was hot.


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    That game never played to my strengths... was too anal about getting every coin.

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    lol, yeah me too. Plus you had to if you wanted to get the damn chaos emeralds or whatever.

    I feel like Sonic and Sally were the stereotypical SLE IEI dual couple.

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