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    The ESFP is basically a better version of an ESTP.

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    My father has always been very blunt and sometimes mean with his words.
    He insists on being the boss and not involving other people in making decisions.
    My INFP sister thinks my father is an F, but I don't see it.

    I would like to know how to tell the 2 types apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    My father has always been very blunt and sometimes mean with his words. He insists on being the boss and not involving other people in making decisions.
    This sounds much more ESTP to me.

    ESFPs generally are more open to people all the time and enjoy it when people are communicating. They still want to do what they want to do, but they like to interact and discuss the decision or justify themselves, compared to the ESTP who is much more autonomous and would rather stay detached and just do what he wants and not be weighted down by all the tedious people telling him what he can and cannot do.

    (Basically, less words and more off "doing his thing" for the ESTP, and the ESFP is fine with more words and still will do his thing.)

    An ESFP might be more mercurial in both good and bad ways, having more extreme "swings" of emotion. The ESTP seems to be a little more detached -- his highs will not be as high, his lows will not be as low, and he might be more apt to maintain a "slow burn or meanness" and hold longer grudges. Because his responses are not coming purely out of emotion like an ESFP but out of logical evaluation of people's motivations and behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    This sounds much more ESTP to me.

    ESFPs generally are more open to people all the time and enjoy it when people are communicating. They still want to do what they want to do, but they like to interact and discuss the decision or justify themselves, compared to the ESTP who is much more autonomous and would rather stay detached and just do what he wants and not be weighted down by all the tedious people telling him what he can and cannot do.

    (Basically, less words and more off "doing his thing" for the ESTP, and the ESFP is fine with more words and still will do his thing.)

    An ESFP might be more mercurial in both good and bad ways, having more extreme "swings" of emotion. The ESTP seems to be a little more detached -- his highs will not be as high, his lows will not be as low, and he might be more apt to maintain a "slow burn or meanness" and hold longer grudges. Because his responses are not coming purely out of emotion like an ESFP but out of logical evaluation of people's motivations and behavior.
    Thanks, Jennifer. That helps. He actually gets offended when people think he should consider what they want.

    I'm going to watch for confirming evidence in the next few months.
    I'm going to go with ESTP for now unless something happens to prove me wrong.
    Hopefully this knowledge will help me in choosing his Christmas gift this year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Thanks, Jennifer. That helps. He actually gets offended when people think he should consider what they want.

    I'm going to watch for confirming evidence in the next few months.
    I'm going to go with ESTP for now unless something happens to prove me wrong.
    Hopefully this knowledge will help me in choosing his Christmas gift this year!
    As strange as it may sound, my mother really likes personalized, well thought out Christmas gifts. However, I stay away from clothes because she'll return everything she doesn't like. But the best gift she said she ever got from me was a drawing with a quote that described our mother/daughter relationship perfectly. A possible ESTP I dated (I'm really not 100% sure unless someone takes the test) also really liked personalized gifts, but his mind would switch to the next moment so quickly that it would end up on the floor or otherwise discarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Me again.

    I realized I mis-judged my father. He is not an ENTP.

    But now I am questioning whether he is more of an ESTP or ESFP?
    I would like to hear some thoughts on the ETP differences. I would think that there is little or no comparison between ESP types, especially since he is male.

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    Quote Originally Posted by "?" View Post
    I would like to hear some thoughts on the ETP differences. I would think that there is little or no comparison between ESP types, especially since he is male.
    There were a few given in this thread, but you're right, they do seem a little few and far between, and also a little hard to choose between.

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    I must admit that I am a bit partial to the Best Fit type descriptions because they are uniquely written, not by an author, by interviewing people who have determined their best fit types. I would think that distinguishing ESFP from ESTP should be quite easy. Although the ENTP and ESFP may share the “Get Things Going” interaction style, ESTP will look more like ENTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quietgirl View Post
    As strange as it may sound, my mother really likes personalized, well thought out Christmas gifts. However, I stay away from clothes because she'll return everything she doesn't like. But the best gift she said she ever got from me was a drawing with a quote that described our mother/daughter relationship perfectly. A possible ESTP I dated (I'm really not 100% sure unless someone takes the test) also really liked personalized gifts, but his mind would switch to the next moment so quickly that it would end up on the floor or otherwise discarded.
    Funny you should say that.
    One Christmas, after my father opened his present, he said the strangest thing:
    "You know what this gift means?
    ...me staring back at him with deer in the headlights look...
    It means that you know me."

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    The comment about ESFPs being great at parties but not being great at throwing parties is so right! My sister is an ESFP and once a year we throw a joint party with all of our friends- meaning about 3 people that I bother to invite (I consider most of the many people I know to be acquaintances) and she invites about 25. Note- this is to an apartment. I do most of the preparation work and talk to those who appear to feel left out- she keeps things going in a fun way and is there when I end up leaving my own apartment because I get tired of having so many people around! Not the most organized or forward thinking person I know- but she sure as hell is fun to be around!

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