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    Quote Originally Posted by stellar renegade View Post
    I do it as instinct, without even thinking about it. It's really hard for me to make decisions about the future. The only deciding factor is often just what appeals to me as the most pleasurable. If I don't know that then I often dawdle until I do.

    This whole thing has been tripping me up lately, too.
    I am learning that if left to my own control I will figure out how to make any situation pleasurable. It allows me to not focus as much on this aspect and more focus on the big picture. When I am not left to my own accord though and I am not able to make things pleasurable I suffer and I start to seek pleasurable. I am not able though to loose the big picture in seeking pleasure though. I think this is Se aux feeding into Ti dominant. Its like a limit or a hard stop to seeking pleasure.

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    I guess I should also mention I realized that when I get stuck in this Se mode, Fi is involved. Fi as an 8th function:

    May become destructive with Fi
    They are usually slow to choose what is important to them. They may unconsciously act in congruence with limiting beliefs and misjudge the relative importance of things. When really stressed, they likely wind up spending money and time on things that are their undoing. Yet on occasion they tap into universal values that, when woven into the context of their lives can transform.
    Pretty much, when I start getting entwined with Fi, I feel overwhelmed and keep trying to go back to Ti and Se... but usually Se, because I need a perceiving function to use with the judging function. I think I was relating this stress to Se... but when I can detach myself from Fi, Se is comforting. Again, using the job thing as an example, for a while there were certain factors in there that brought out my Fi. But after time, I sought closure in those areas, detached myself from the unhealthy use of Fi, and went back to using Ti + Se. Therefore I now feel comfortable using "whatever job makes me a decent offer" to help me make a decision... And to me that IS a decision I made using Ti (To relate again to Jock's post)... because I rationalized it to be a suitable answer. As Poki said, we can adapt to pretty much anything. Anyways, hope that made sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by StephMC939 View Post
    I guess I should also mention I realized that when I get stuck in this Se mode, Fi is involved. Fi as an 8th function:



    Pretty much, when I start getting entwined with Fi, I feel overwhelmed and keep trying to go back to Ti and Se... but usually Se, because I need a perceiving function to use with the judging function. I think I was relating this stress to Se... but when I can detach myself from Fi, Se is comforting. Again, using the job thing as an example, for a while there were certain factors in there that brought out my Fi. But after time, I sought closure in those areas, detached myself from the unhealthy use of Fi, and went back to using Ti + Se. Therefore I now feel comfortable using "whatever job makes me a decent offer" to help me make a decision... And to me that IS a decision I made using Ti (To relate again to Jock's post)... because I rationalized it to be a suitable answer. As Poki said, we can adapt to pretty much anything. Anyways, hope that made sense
    Glad you were able to come to a resolution



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Glad you were able to come to a resolution
    Me, too! I just hope I can remember this next time this happens again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StephMC939 View Post
    Me, too! I just hope I can remember this next time this happens again.
    It actually gets easier as you get older to the point where you dont have to really try to think about it. This process is alot more natural for me now. People seem to think I am always right, when I just point myself in a direction like you did and then let things happen whatever way they end up happening.

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    Se and TI is complete bullshit. lol

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    Read first post and skimmed the rest.

    Yeah, I forsake long term strategy for immediate action.

    Right now I'm taking a year off college and I'm not sure what I want to go into. Maybe I want to be an architect. Maybe I don't know if I want to even go to college. Maybe I want to do something else.

    The above is pretty much the extent of my thinking on the subject of my long term job future.

    In the mean time, I'm doing free-lance handyman work and making cash. I'm a reasonably skilled handyman. The opportunities are available. I like cash. So that's what I do.

    As for "breaking the cycle," I can't help you there...seems like my solution is just ride it out.

    I suppose I made a decent move in terms of trying to make money. No matter what happens in the future (aside from Civil War II or a zombie attack) money will be something I'll want to have.

    SO, it might be a decent strategy to make your short-term choices something that can be useful in the long term. Money, transferable skills, connections etc. When big decision time comes around, you'll have resources at your disposal.
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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    I hear you.


    I don't suffer from analysis paralysis, I take in information and process it quite quickly, then jam it through the system. If it doesn't work, I learn something. If it does, great. I think about why it worked and how I'll do it better next time.


    Every now and then it lands me in hot water, but most times I couldn't give two fucks, I think people pick up on that and leave me alone about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    It actually gets easier as you get older to the point where you dont have to really try to think about it. This process is alot more natural for me now. People seem to think I am always right, when I just point myself in a direction like you did and then let things happen whatever way they end up happening.
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