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    Well, we tend to be able to open people up and make them more outgoing. I've noticed this happening at work alot. The introverts start talking more around me. I think that may be partly why my ISTJ coworker jokes and gets all energetic sometimes, although he has said that he's a "sanguine".
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcmartinez84 View Post
    See, my ESTP friend can get ISTJ to do things and actually talk. Maybe it's an ISTP/ISTJ clash with me. ISTJ is ridiculously anti-social and really stays within his limited comfort zone. I was shocked that he wanted to go on the trip to New Orleans - since he's from a small town in the middle of Arkansas and plays his PS2 when he's not working or programming for fun.

    I just can't make any sense of why he does anything or why he thinks things the way he does. It makes it really difficult for me...and we all know what happens when things that don't matter get difficult. I don't *have* to be friends with him (or anyone else for that matter), so if it's uncomfortable for me, I ain't gonna. He makes me uncomfortable when he says stuff like "I said no" and "don't worry about it" when talking about food at a restaurant. Gawd, really? He's 26 years old and he can't come up with a nicer or more socially acceptable way to say these things? Geez, I thought I was bad. At least I give reasons for why I don't do things when people ask me - "I'm full" or "I don't want sweets, I'm sticking to a diet"...y'know, that's normal stuff, it's not like I'm going to judge you for watching your weight and for not stuffing your face all day.

    In response to the questions - 1) I wouldn't know...he never talks about anything with me. Everything is a dead end answer regardless of how open ended the question may be. 2) I think he's always like that with me. 'Cause he's *not* always like that around the ESTP. I don't know what his deal is, but it pisses me off
    Maybe he's just very reserved. How well do you know him? It could take me a while of knowing a person until I open up. Or maybe something is bothering him that he doesn't want to talk about. I don't think you should take offense to that.

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    It just seems like opening up about why you won't eat a beignet or stating what you'll be ordering for brunch...isn't opening up at all. That's totally normal stuff. Everyone eats, everyone has their own taste in food... I find it to be such a normal topic that I'd only refuse to answer if I were messing around with someone, but he's not like that. He was totally serious and wouldn't talk about it later. It's like he thinks I'm going to judge him for having a reason behind his decisions...but really I judge him now for being unwilling to justify or explain actions that I see as irrational.

    It's ok in the long run - he's just not going to be invited on any excursions that last more than about 3 hours. Being a pain in the ass about food was RARELY tolerated when I was growing up and in the past few years I've come to understand why. I learned my lesson on this trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stellar renegade View Post
    Well, we tend to be able to open people up and make them more outgoing.
    I need more ESTP in my life. My bff ESTP and I were both Math/Stats majors and got the same job right out of college. We worked "together" for about 9 months, he got laid off and moved back near home and got a job there. I miss him all of the time. As a programmer, I don't interact with many ESTPs at work.
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    Eh, doesn't sound like it's a big deal at all, maybe the guy just doesn't feel like talking when eating.

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    One of my best friends is an INTJ. It took me a whole year to get along with him and ages later to accept him as a close friend. INTJ types are so easily misunderstood- what they mean as a joke can easily be taken seriously by types such as mine. Like I said, he's now one of my closest friends- I just had to learn to take everything he says with a pinch of salt. He's really a witty, intellectual guy with real passion and devotion for things he loves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne View Post
    Eh, doesn't sound like it's a big deal at all, maybe the guy just doesn't feel like talking when eating.
    He wasn't eating either time
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcmartinez84 View Post
    He wasn't eating either time
    Haha forget it then.

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    I like INTJs, but then again we're related (both literally and figuratively).

    ESFPs get on my nerves because they don't make sense and they just crash into situations headfirst. Actually, anyone who's disrespectful and illogical can be annoying, but that doesn't always correlate to types.

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    McMartinez84, my boss is like your friend. Sometimes things can be very awkward between us and oddly silent. I swear he rides the waves of his moods in some invisible tide. He can be cantankerous or close up for no reason and then an hour later, it's like he downed a Mountain Dew in 2.5 seconds. It may be true about other E's drawing him out. I work closely with an E, although she has a different boss...and she is WAY better with him and he's not so awkward with her. But I've always heard him say things about her need to be "pleasing" and "super chipper." He is an attorney and yet seems to seriously lack social skills at times! There are times when I think "he is just WEIRD!"

    The only person I've come across that I HATED, that I thought was a complete and total douche bag with no qualities to speak of that I can find (and we ISFJs look for the good in people!) was an ESTJ. GAWD, he's annoying. I can't stand being around him. He is pompous and arrogant and materialist and comes off as totally FAKE and pretentious. The worst!!

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