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    Quote Originally Posted by sonickel77 View Post
    Then I am INFP then!

    Damn. I really don't want to be an uncool nerd...
    PS. The fact that you care kind of makes me think ISFP. For me, It's more like, "Damn! I'm a cool nerd!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    1. Regarding the "cool-looking" thing, I think ISFPs pay more attention to outward details -- to what looks good and is fashionable. So they're likely to give more thought to what they wear and what it says about them. INFPs are more likely from what I've seen to dress as nondescriptly as possible within the parameters of whichever subculture they most closely identify with. I think INTPs do this too.

    2. ISFPs don't have a lot of sales resistance. They're suckers for product-placements.

    3. INFPs usually consider themselves somewhat "philosophical". ISFPs don't. This is probably the quickest and most effective way to tell them apart.
    The first two criteria might make me an ISFP. I'm a sucker for infomercials. I don't actually buy anything off of them because I am too indecisive, but I'm like, "yeah, that's an awesome idea!". Then later I laugh, because deep down I know it's stupid. I also find myself shopping in stores that play music I like. They totally know who they are marketing to, and I totally fall for it.

    Now the last one is a good point, and that safely puts me in the INFP zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post

    I'm an INFP who is very into aesthetics, creating tangible art (if I can focus long enough to do it), and maintaining autonomy. INFPs can be as much visual artists as ISFPs.

    However, I am at core, very idealistic, obsessed with all things ethical, and use a lot of metaphor and symbolism to communicate. The physical realm can feel surreal, while my imagination feels real, and I have difficulty being in the moment.

    An INFP approach to art is likely going to be more conceptually thought out and an ISFP may take a more in the moment approach. INFPs will emphasize symbolism, and an ISFP may emphasize pure aesthetic value. An ISFP fashion designer will often say they are going to allow the fabric to "choose what it wants to become". It's sort of creating with the impulse of the moment. If it's beautiful and stirs feeling, then mission accomplished. Think of Jackson Pollack and his approach to painting.

    An INFP will likely have some complex concept (such as an entire story built around the emotion they want to evoke through the design) before they being physically making anything. It seems that ISFPs are more prolific artists in this sense, because they dive into the hands on part faster, whereas INFPs may over-think it, lose interest, and never realize their idea.
    i relate a lot, wow...especially the 'in the moment' bit; Ni dominance and Se at the end and all, i've always been labeled as something of a space case, even though i somehow manage to stay present - i get a good laugh out of surprising people by responding to something they passingly said in a discussion that no one else heard; they never see it coming

    golly! i almost made the same post; i was reading through the thread and preparing to represent the aesthetically conscious INFPs when i saw your post here - thanks for articulating this stuff so nicely, as always, OrangeAppled.

    ...sometimes i think my interest in symbolism is more from the land of INFJ than INFP (because my cognitive functions are so INFJ)...hm..i think many INFPs are sort of unconsciously attracted to symbols they personally identify themselves with, while INFJs more consciously dissect meanings and choose a variety of different symbols to suit what they're going for at a given time..

    at any rate, creating art is a great way for me as an INFx to really connect with my Si and Se...so much so that when i first read about MBTI and Jungian types i thought i might be an ISFP because of all the associations of the type with art and visual aesthetics...and, as folks can see from my posts, i'm not the world's most eloquent writer, as per INFP stereotype. ah, the confusion...

    but anyway, my point was that a person's hobbies, skills, or interests can vary and don't always align perfectly with their typological orientation. speech patterns, mannerisms, and social behavior seem to be a more reliable set of variables to work with when determining type.

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    I'm not an ISFP but I like making cool-looking art with no meaning behind it. It's funny because then the SPs get together and look at what I've made and try and create a meaning or story with it, all the while I have my troll-face on because it means nothing in particular.

    thangs sure is backwerdz sumtimez

    on a related note, my favorite yearbook quote from 11th grade by one of my best INFP friends: (on his favorite subject) "I like art because it makes people think I'm deeper than I really am".

    he's a great painter btw, and his stuff is very weird and abstract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neptunesnet View Post

    ...I've done it.
    lol I know. I know a few IxFP's who have done that or something similiar to that. I also still think Bob Marley is IxFP. Just don't know which.

    Quote Originally Posted by JivinJeffJones View Post
    Some more pointers on how to tell them apart (drawn mostly from myself and my ISFP sister):

    1. Regarding the "cool-looking" thing, I think ISFPs pay more attention to outward details -- to what looks good and is fashionable. So they're likely to give more thought to what they wear and what it says about them. INFPs are more likely from what I've seen to dress as nondescriptly as possible within the parameters of whichever subculture they most closely identify with. I think INTPs do this too.

    2. ISFPs don't have a lot of sales resistance. They're suckers for product-placements.

    3. INFPs usually consider themselves somewhat "philosophical". ISFPs don't. This is probably the quickest and most effective way to tell them apart.
    1. Hmm, that sounds about right.

    2. lol I can see that.

    3. What do you mean by philosophical? What does this look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    3. What do you mean by philosophical? What does this look like?
    I mean if they self-identify as "philosophical" then they are almost certainly INFP rather than ISFP. I guess what it looks like though is that INFPs will be interested in very abstract discussions, whereas ISFPs will probably change the topic in a fairly obvious way to one which is more concrete. It's not that they can't think abstractly -- they would just rather not.

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    INFP: I'd like to discover the cure for cancer.

    ISFP: If I did, I'd ask for a reward. I already decided what. I'd want my own interstate highway built, where I get to be the first one to drive the whole thing, with no other drivers on the road. They'd have all the exits blocked off, so nobody could get on but me, but I'd call ahead if I needed an exit opened for me to stop at a gas station or get food or whatever. It would be so awesome!

    INFP: Yeah, but think about how many trees would have to be cut down to build another interstate.

    ISFP: You don't get it. I could drive the whole thing by myself! It would be MY highway!

    INFP: ......

    ISFP: Okay, fine! You could come too!

    INFP: .......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    INFP: I'd like to discover the cure for cancer.

    ISFP: If I did, I'd ask for a reward. I already decided what. I'd want my own interstate highway built, where I get to be the first one to drive the whole thing, with no other drivers on the road. They'd have all the exits blocked off, so nobody could get on but me, but I'd call ahead if I needed an exit opened for me to stop at a gas station or get food or whatever. It would be so awesome!

    INFP: Yeah, but think about how many trees would have to be cut down to build another interstate.

    ISFP: You don't get it. I could drive the whole thing by myself! It would be MY highway!

    INFP: ......

    ISFP: Okay, fine! You could come too!

    INFP: .......
    lol, yeah thats me. forget the tree's and the cancer, lets have some fun!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ayoitsStepho View Post
    lol, yeah thats me. forget the tree's and the cancer, lets have some fun!!
    sounds fun and all *riding down your own highway = sweetness * but about the trees/cancer.

    Guess i just aided in the INFP ISFP difference right there huh? XD.

    AyoitsStepho lol.
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    Feeling is primarily a process.....that imparts to the content a definite value in the sense of acceptance or rejection. In the same way that thinking organizes the contents of consciousness under concepts, feeling arranges them according to their value. Feeling, like thinking, is a rational function, since values in general are assigned according to the laws of reason...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    INFP: I'd like to discover the cure for cancer.

    ISFP: If I did, I'd ask for a reward. I already decided what. I'd want my own interstate highway built, where I get to be the first one to drive the whole thing, with no other drivers on the road. They'd have all the exits blocked off, so nobody could get on but me, but I'd call ahead if I needed an exit opened for me to stop at a gas station or get food or whatever. It would be so awesome!

    INFP: Yeah, but think about how many trees would have to be cut down to build another interstate.

    ISFP: You don't get it. I could drive the whole thing by myself! It would be MY highway!

    INFP: ......

    ISFP: Okay, fine! You could come too!

    INFP: .......
    Would any of the ISFPs be willing to make any more of these made up conversation thingies? It really helps illustrate the differences between us, at least for me. This one ^^^ was really helpful so far.

    I know there was a thread somewhere about how the types look at art (like S/N differences), but I guess I'm still a little confused with the subtle things that really give the types away. What is something that would make you think ISFP right away, for instance, in conversation?

    I've read that ISFPs are usually much in tune with their bodies. So do all of the ISFPs here enjoy things like climbing, hiking, dancing? Do you feel naturally comfortable/ at ease with these activities?
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