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    PEST that STEPs on PETS stellar renegade's Avatar
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    Very nice, Halla, and very well put.

    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    Its possible to see both sides of things logically and its even possible to think 2 different things because of one small difference that we may know about you. Remember that every situation is different. If one person likes doing something and someone else doesnt you may have the exact same situation and we will give 2 different responses.
    Precisely!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    I can see both sides of most everything. No matter how thin you slice it there's always two sides. There is no real you anyway, just the memory of what was.
    Mother of all creation! You dropped three pages of wisdom in three sentences.

    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    Its possible to see both sides of things logically and its even possible to think 2 different things because of one small difference that we may know about you. Remember that every situation is different. If one person likes doing something and someone else doesnt you may have the exact same situation and we will give 2 different responses.
    Poki, I must have responded around the same time you did, I only now read your post. It took me a few passes because of its detail, but I get it, and I agree with you. It's not normal for me to respond from the detail level, you do it very well.

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    I agree, I think the ISXPs must be the best SPs at explaining the intricacies of being an Artisan.

    I really do see most things as relative.

    Keirsey says that Idealists are the dogmatic temperament whereas the Artisans are the agnostic temperament. haha. So true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stellar renegade View Post
    I agree, I think the ISXPs must be the best SPs at explaining the intricacies of being an Artisan.

    I really do see most things as relative.

    Keirsey says that Idealists are the dogmatic temperament whereas the Artisans are the agnostic temperament. haha. So true.
    Props to our ISXP brothers and sisters for revealing the big truths that lie between the lines of the finest details.

    Things are relative to me, guaranteed.

    I'd rather be called agnostic than dogmatic anyday!

    Go Team-SP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    I don't know that I can add to what you wrote above, I think it's well put.

    I will offer the following. I am very well liked and regarded highly by those who know me. Friendships are very special to me and I go out of my way to help those that I call dear. Like everyone else, I am human, and there have been times when I have screwed up, some of the small and some of them huge. The bottom line is though that I make right whatever wrong I might have done. The reason I think this is relevant to the topic at hand is the following age old adage:

    ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.

    I am a man of action. Most ESTPs are. Although I often have alot to say about everything, when something needs to be done, I have the wherewithall and gumption to make it so. Why? Because I believe in doing the right things for the right reasons, and I also don't like my intentions to be questioned. The easiest way to lay such inquiries to rest is to point out your historical precedents, by calling attention to your actions that nullify any doubts about you. Life is not just about random acts of kindness, doing what you believe in, or setting an example because it is the right thing to do, it's about all of them, and I have found that when you consistetnly live as such, when the time comes for testimony of your character to be verified, it is very easy to do, and you do not have to utter a single word, and sometimes that says more than anything.

    [GROUP 0:] Many do nothing, they let life happen around them.

    [GROUP 1:] There are those that can. (Some)

    [GROUP 2:] There are those that will. (Fewer)

    [GROUP 3:] There are those that can AND will. (Few and far between)

    I've always been a member of GROUP 3. Just because SPs are capable of social interaction in a highly successful manner does not mean they are insincere. I call bullshit on that line of thought, I've never liked the tone of it actually, it is condescending.
    No, this does make sense, particularly the actions speak louder than words part. I think you are right about needing to pay attention to that more than anything else, when observing another person (of any type!). I wasn't out to offend any SPs, by the way...that's just kind of the way I see it. I'm not much of a relativist myself and sometimes I think it's a fine line between trying to see things from the other person's perspective (actually, INFJs do that a lot) and compromising your own principles. I can't say I'm exactly 100%consistent myself, either. I suspect an NF such as myself is more likely to back off if they really don't agree with someone else, rather than try to find a way to agree with them...

    NFs and SPs have things to learn from each other!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    Props to our ISXP brothers and sisters for revealing the big truths that lie between the lines of the finest details.
    Amen!

    I've found Jeffster is amazing at this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    Things are relative to me, guaranteed.

    I'd rather be called agnostic than dogmatic anyday!
    Yep, leaves tons of room to be realistic and observational!

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    Go Team-SP!


    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    I'm not much of a relativist myself and sometimes I think it's a fine line between trying to see things from the other person's perspective (actually, INFJs do that a lot) and compromising your own principles.
    I guess the thing is having principles in the first place, haha.

    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    NFs and SPs have things to learn from each other!
    True! I'm always open to learning more as long as it isn't shoved down my throat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stellar renegade View Post
    True! I'm always open to learning more as long as it isn't shoved down my throat.
    I keep wrapping the pills in cheese, but you keep spitting them back out in your food dish! COME ON.
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    Speaking of pills. I really like the Japanese saying Good medicine is bitter to the taste. It sure is. It's a bitter pill to swallow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    Props to our ISXP brothers and sisters for revealing the big truths that lie between the lines of the finest details.

    Things are relative to me, guaranteed.

    I'd rather be called agnostic than dogmatic anyday!

    Go Team-SP!
    Its wierd because sometimes I feel like an Introverted ESTP. In groups or people I am comfortable around I turn more ESTP, but not quite as verbal. Most of the time though I sit in ISTP. I dont feel like I can be consistant and still mesh with different people. Its like I worry they will think I am fake, never thought of it as being a Salamander until now.

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    It's funny, my ISTP friend at work is definitely introverted but when it comes to our crew he's loud and boisterous, joking and laughing very disruptively. I love it. He's a real nut like me. Definitely theatric.

    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    I keep wrapping the pills in cheese, but you keep spitting them back out in your food dish! COME ON.
    Then why doncha try giving me a spoonful of sugar, sugar?
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