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    Thanks for your input.

    I think the biggest consequence of changing your major is that the required classes for graduating with that degree may be different than the classes you've been taking. Therefore you have to go to school longer in order to get all the required classes - and pay more money. My daughter's boyfriend has done that. He changed his major last year and so now is doing a 5th year of college to get the required classes he needs to qualify for that degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    I think the biggest consequence of changing your major is that the required classes for graduating with that degree may be different than the classes you've been taking.
    Definitely. When I switched to Math I added on a summer and Fall to my 4 years. I was lucky, too! I had already taken some of the calc classes from being in Engineering beforehand, and the pre-req's for the higher level Math's are pretty much Calc 1-3 (and being interested).

    I could have been out in less than 4 years if I'd known I wanted to major in Math. C'est la vie.
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    Depending on how much he feels like he needs to supplant, he may want to consider accepting that very few jobs will be completely fulfilling.

    I don't think that I will ever feel like I can be pigeon-holed into doing one thing. My answer to this was that I should find something that pays well, is needed in many different fashions and places, and can be done in contracts. This way I can work for a period of time then have the resources to do what I really want.

    What you absolutely cannot do is try and decide something that will be "his thing". He should develop some marketable skills and play it by ear.

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    Well, that's why I was thinking he could learn to be an electrician. He could use his skills almost anywhere.

    He wants to be a professional skateboarder, but it takes a sponsor. He's charming enough to get one, though.

    And of course, that's not a life long pursuit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Well, that's why I was thinking he could learn to be an electrician. He could use his skills almost anywhere.

    He wants to be a professional skateboarder, but it takes a sponsor. He's charming enough to get one, though.

    And of course, that's not a life long pursuit.
    The way I would sell a better solution than that to an ISTP is to remind him that he will probably go through periods and places where skateboarding isn't plausible. He may go through periods where he wants to skateboard for fun without having to worry about what a sponsor wants him to do. He should develop a small array of marketable skills as backups.

    If your son has ever changed interests, use that as an example--he will probably find other exciting things to do in the future as well. Plausible "boring" skills help make the transition easier.

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    Old thread I realize, but I thought I'd give it my 2 cents.

    Sending him to college would be a waste of money since he wouldn't study.
    You know your son but I know several cases where once the kid matures and gets to college they suddenly start taking things more seriously. One of my friends sent her son to community college for the first year with the understanding that he would have to prove himself and he certainly did! Now he's almost finished his degree and still going strong. I think he may surprise you.

    Does he have any interest in the medical field? It's 'hands-on' in a completely different way, but I recently read that medical technologists (they do x-rays, cat scans, MRI's, echos etc.) is the highest-paying 2 year degree jobs. Is he at all creative, artistic? What about landscape or graphic design? How about a business degree and he could own and operate a skate park?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alicia91 View Post
    Old thread I realize, but I thought I'd give it my 2 cents.



    You know your son but I know several cases where once the kid matures and gets to college they suddenly start taking things more seriously. One of my friends sent her son to community college for the first year with the understanding that he would have to prove himself and he certainly did! Now he's almost finished his degree and still going strong. I think he may surprise you.

    Does he have any interest in the medical field? It's 'hands-on' in a completely different way, but I recently read that medical technologists (they do x-rays, cat scans, MRI's, echos etc.) is the highest-paying 2 year degree jobs. Is he at all creative, artistic? What about landscape or graphic design? How about a business degree and he could own and operate a skate park?
    Thanks for the response. He's still in high school, so I'm still looking for input.

    He has an apparently ISTP propensity for wanting to do things that his friends are doing. Yet he's so shy he only has about a dozen friends. That tends to narrow the field. He seems to think he can go to a technical school and try things out. I hope he's right.

    With this boy's tastes in life, a high paying job would be a good idea.

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    With this boy's tastes in life, a high paying job would be a good idea
    My teens have expensive tastes also, so I'm getting concerned about future careers. My daughter wants to be a photographer and let's just say I'm not thrilled. Even though mine are only 13 and 15, and are two different types (ISTJ and ENFP - I think) and different sexes, they both only want to do things their friends are doing. I'm hoping they will grow out of that.

    Good luck with your son finding his path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    I have an ISTP son who doesn't know what he wants to do when he gets out of high school -
    besides become a pro-skateboarder, I mean.

    We're trying to direct him to a career choice that he will enjoy,
    and where he will also make good money -
    because that boy can burn through money!

    He has some electrical experience in helping his father.
    One night he came home, dirty and exhausted,
    and with a great big enthusiastic smile he declared,
    "Hey Mom! Guess what?! I almost got electrocuted 3 times!!
    I think there's enough danger and adventure in electricity where he could enjoy it.

    He hates reading and writing,
    so we're not sending him to a 4-year college.
    He's a kinesthetic (hands-on) learner.

    Anybody have any input?
    I had (and am still having, to an extent) a very difficult time figuring out what I wanted to do. My parents (IxTJ and ENTP) helped by allowing me to follow my interests--even with things like painting classes and historic reenactment that didn't seem to have "practical" career value. I had no idea what I wanted to do, but they also were open to letting me discover my own vocational
    track--as long as I was doing something to that end. I wasn't allowed to just sit around.

    Thus, I lived at home and worked for a year after high school while looking into different careers & training. I started at the local state university in the art department the next fall, but was quickly frustrated by the atmosphere & attitude of the profs. I left the university after only one semester and started checking out other options.

    I figured that if I was going to work like crazy and spend thousands on an education, then I might as well do it right--so I applied and transferred to a small ivy league school on the east coast to study history. I honestly think that was where I was meant to be (I met my now fiance there), but I was such a hopeless fish out-of-water. My solace was the student theater club, where I designed, built, and painted things like my sanity depended on it (which it did, at times).

    After 5 years of university and working numerous jobs during high school and after, I've come to the conclusion that if I were more mathematically inclined (I'm not), then I would either study a trade like carpentry, plumbing/heating, etc., or I'd go to school to be an architect. I'm most satisfied when I'm working on a short-term, concrete project that involves both some element of creative design and problem solving. However even with that said, I think that part of the nature of ISTPs is to live for our hobbies. I'm currently supposed to be studying and writing an 80-page minimum senior thesis to finish up my undergraduate degree (drat that ivy league school!) which seems like torture to me, But I somehow managed to find myself illustrating a friend's graphic novel as a side project. Guess which one I'm more interested in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alicia91 View Post
    I recently read that medical technologists (they do x-rays, cat scans, MRI's, echos etc.) is the highest-paying 2 year degree jobs.
    This is true. There's a large regional hospital in my hometown and my father recently check out their x-ray tech training program for my brother. It is a relatively short training time and pays extremely well.

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