I have quite a few family members that are ISTJs and ESTJ and they can be be somewhat difficult to get along with. Don't get me wrong, I love them very much and they are very good to me. Only I am very, very liberal and they are very, very, very conservative, so we tend to clash sometimes. I enjoy the discussions but they are so structured into what they believe is right, I mostly just smile and nod and respect their opinion than start an argument.
They are decent people, but we don't have much in common, so I don't hang around with them much. However, I work with several and have a few in my family, and I definitely feel they don't deserve the bad reputation they have. They have many good old-fashioned qualities, like honesty and dependability and helpfulness. I get along the ISTJs better, as I find the extraverted ones can be too loud and dominate everything. Some ISTJs can be a bit bland/boring. My uncle just likes to play golf, and that's all he likes. But some ISTJs are very thoughtful and good at more traditional arts like wood carving or playing the fiddle.
Originally Posted by Jeffster
I am usually fine with STJs unless one is my boss. I don't like them as bosses.
I've found the same thing. They are goal directed and put all else aside to get to that goal. They put in crazy hours and expect everyone else to do the same. Some may sacrifice their personal lives and even their health and relationships to meet their work goals. :steam:
I have too much of a varied opinion. I've kinda hated them in the past but because of a huge stereotype and the actions of a few. I love the ones I've come to know as friends. It can be really hard being under them as managers, though. Some of them can be too strict. Although we have a manager right now who simply has to be a XSTJ, and he's really surprisingly cool, as much as he goes by company policy.
Or maybe he's actually a XNTJ, seeming to go more by principle. hmmmm, never really thought about that before.
I work with an XSTJ, though, and he's really cool. He knows how to have fun even though he commits himself to the job. He's also disgruntled about the higher-ups just like the rest of us.
-stellar renegade coo-oo-ooool this madness down,
stop it right on tiiiiime!