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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    I wouldn't say I'm gullible. My initial reaction is to doubt what someone says and look for some evidence that it's not BS.
    ditto
    This will hurt.

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    I think another ENTJ in this thread already said this but yeah... I sometimes dislike ISFPs because they make me feel like I'm being an asshole when I really am not doing anything of the sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justxher View Post
    I think another ENTJ in this thread already said this but yeah... I sometimes dislike ISFPs because they make me feel like I'm being an asshole when I really am not doing anything of the sort.
    Just because you don't feel like you are being an asshole, doesn't mean that you aren't coming off as one to others.

    There are a lot of things about ENTJ's that make them come off as assholes to me; ENTJ's tendency to be challenging and confrontational, their tendency not to listen to others, their extremely high standards and expectations, they tend to get involved in "win-lose" conversations, they tend to be critical of opinions and attitudes which don't match their own, they are not naturally in tune with people's feelings and reactions, they can be very harsh and intolerant about messiness or inefficiency, they tend to be controlling, and they can be very impersonal, dictatorial, or abrasive.

    I'm telling my xNTJ best friend of three years tomorrow that we need to take a break for an indefinite amount of time because I am so sick of the way he treats me it is making it difficult to be his friend. I can put up with a lot, I'm a very understanding, caring, patient, forgiving person, and I don't let my feelings get hurt too easily. And he's not all bad; if he were I would not have put up with his shit for as long as I have...but I've had enough hurt. You can't treat your friends like that and expect them to stick around for very long. I guess we'll just see how things play out from there.

    /rant
    This will hurt.

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    What's this business about ISFPs not giving anyone any reasons to hate them?
    You guys are heartbreakers!

    :ouch:
    I'm just bitter though.
    "There's no need to be embarrassed about it, Mr. Spock. It happens to the birds and the bees!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinycatsinmyhair View Post
    Just because you don't feel like you are being an asshole, doesn't mean that you aren't coming off as one to others.

    There are a lot of things about ENTJ's that make them come off as assholes to me; ENTJ's tendency to be challenging and confrontational, their tendency not to listen to others, their extremely high standards and expectations, they tend to get involved in "win-lose" conversations, they tend to be critical of opinions and attitudes which don't match their own, they are not naturally in tune with people's feelings and reactions, they can be very harsh and intolerant about messiness or inefficiency, they tend to be controlling, and they can be very impersonal, dictatorial, or abrasive.

    I'm telling my xNTJ best friend of three years tomorrow that we need to take a break for an indefinite amount of time because I am so sick of the way he treats me it is making it difficult to be his friend. I can put up with a lot, I'm a very understanding, caring, patient, forgiving person, and I don't let my feelings get hurt too easily. And he's not all bad; if he were I would not have put up with his shit for as long as I have...but I've had enough hurt. You can't treat your friends like that and expect them to stick around for very long. I guess we'll just see how things play out from there.

    /rant
    First of all, that stuff in the first paragraph is copy pasted from personality page which I think is kind of weird if you were trying to describe your personal experiences.

    Second of all, I know it is easy for you to blame your friend for the problems in your relationship, but I am sure you are not as big a victim as you make it out to be. My best friend is an infp and she works as much to adapt to my Te as I do to to adapt to her Fi. Instead of just allowing yourself to be mistreated and growing resentment all this time, did you try explaining to him very clearly how things bother you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justxher View Post
    First of all, that stuff in the first paragraph is copy pasted from personality page which I think is kind of weird if you were trying to describe your personal experiences.

    Second of all, I know it is easy for you to blame your friend for the problems in your relationship, but I am sure you are not as big a victim as you make it out to be. My best friend is an infp and she works as much to adapt to my Te as I do to to adapt to her Fi. Instead of just allowing yourself to be mistreated and growing resentment all this time, did you try explaining to him very clearly how things bother you?
    I wasn't using the personality page info to describe my ~personal~ experience, no. Yes, I have tried... many times. He brushes me off and tells me I am being stupid.
    This will hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinycatsinmyhair View Post
    I wasn't using the personality page info to describe my ~personal~ experience, no. Yes, I have tried... many times. He brushes me off and tells me I am being stupid.
    Well then maybe you are not telling him through the kind of approach he would understand. It sounds like you are just making him out to be the bad guy without trying to understand him at all. If he values your friendship, I am sure he would go more than out of his way to change the way he treats you if you made a solid, clear point to him about why you are affected that way.

    And as for not being able to expect your friends to stick around like that... you can't make that assumption at all. There is a whole world of people who prefer direct communication to sugar-coated fluff. I'd much sooner stick around with somebody who tells me whats on their mind even if it isn't the nicest thing than somebody who keeps things quiet and grows resentment in private.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justxher View Post
    Well then maybe you are not telling him through the kind of approach he would understand. It sounds like you are just making him out to be the bad guy without trying to understand him at all. If he values your friendship, I am sure he would go more than out of his way to change the way he treats you if you made a solid, clear point to him about why you are affected that way.

    And as for not being able to expect your friends to stick around like that... you can't make that assumption at all. There is a whole world of people who prefer direct communication to sugar-coated fluff. I'd much sooner stick around with somebody who tells me whats on their mind even if it isn't the nicest thing than somebody who keeps things quiet and grows resentment in private.
    You clearly don't understand me, him, or the situation. Oh well.
    This will hurt.

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    Wow i want to meet an ISFP.

    Yall sound fabulitious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    We never did nothin to nobody.
    I guess this is the main reason for the ISFP-hate, if such a thing exists.

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