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    Huh. Now that you mention it, I was different when I was a kid as well. Difference is, I became MORE the daydreamer/quiet type.

    When I was younger (6 or less)... let's just say I did things like squirt my mom in the face with a squirt gun and take a picture of her because I thought she looked funny when she was mad. Oh, and I also took advantage of an opportunity to runaway from daycare while the teacher was out of the room, even sidling under a security camera and crawling in front of a counter to avoid being detected. I apparently also took advantage of a low net on the outside wall of a playground in a bookstore to steal a book (didn't get caught, and they didn't believe it had been stolen when she tried to pay for it), though I don't remember it. My mom says I did it, though. I'd NEVER do anything like that now.

    I basically went from being like that, to being like I am now. I think it was basically because I realized on some level, "Okay, planning stuff out ahead of time, thinking before you act... leads to good things happening. Taking advantage of an opportunity without knowing what you're getting yourself into... gets you in trouble and makes bad things happen." So I adopted the former approach over the latter. And I actually do prefer the way I am now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unique View Post
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    What's your reasoning behind this type change? I recall you saying intuition was useless and the world could do without it. And you seem as blatantly not N to me (no offense).

    This reminds me of something:

    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    I think that many S's feel they need to change to N after reading this forum for a while.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    I agree. And Fs to Ts, Es to Is, and Js to Ps. Until we reach le ultimate type -- INTP
    I'm enjoying how everyone seems to be all of a sudden having this relevation that they are INTP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    I'm enjoying how everyone seems to be all of a sudden having this relevation that they are INTP.
    Yup. It's totally lame. We should have an INTP entrance exam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Yup. It's totally lame. We should have an INTP entrance exam.
    There was a time when I thought INTPs were considerably dumber than INTJs because of their poor spelling/grammar, seeming inability to use a dictionary, and the fact that everything I said seemed to go over their head unless I made it simple and obvious. I noticed that most of these INTPs seemed to rely mostly on their right-brain (and were actually very intelligent in this regard), but had horrendous left-brain skills.

    Then I saw another group of INTPs who spelled/punctuated correctly, and sometimes described things so technically I had to read them more than once to understand them. So I decided, "Okay, some of these people are obviously different types... they just CAN'T all be the same type."

    You definitely need to start screening these people, lest someone else hit a pocket of "INTPs" like the ones in the first paragraph.

    I think what attracts a lot of people to the INTP description, is that they see "INTP" and "Ti-Ne" as meaning "Ooh! I think for myself, don't let anyone tell me what to do, and I'm creative, I must be an INTP. Durr."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post


    What's your reasoning behind this type change? I recall you saying intuition was useless and the world could do without it. And you seem as blatantly not N to me (no offense).

    This reminds me of something:

    I'm enjoying how everyone seems to be all of a sudden having this relevation that they are INTP.
    You are mistaken, my theory was that you don't need intuition to operate everyday life as much as you need sensing my view on this has not changed.

    You will notice this thread is quite old, its not a recent discovery I've suspected that something was inconsistent

    I expected such ludicrously and hostility for no reason from you though

    Edit. It should be noted that I have never said that "intuition was useless" and lauren ashley is wrong headed

    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    There was a time when I thought INTPs were considerably dumber than INTJs because of their poor spelling/grammar, seeming inability to use a dictionary, and the fact that everything I said seemed to go over their head unless I made it simple and obvious. I noticed that most of these INTPs seemed to rely mostly on their right-brain (and were actually very intelligent in this regard), but had horrendous left-brain skills.

    Then I saw another group of INTPs who spelled/punctuated correctly, and sometimes described things so technically I had to read them more than once to understand them. So I decided, "Okay, some of these people are obviously different types... they just CAN'T all be the same type."

    You definitely need to start screening these people, lest someone else hit a pocket of "INTPs" like the ones in the first paragraph.

    I think what attracts a lot of people to the INTP description, is that they see "INTP" and "Ti-Ne" as meaning "Ooh! I think for myself, don't let anyone tell me what to do, and I'm creative, I must be an INTP. Durr."
    I have not been one of those people who jumped up straight away and yelled I'm INTP! This discovery has taken me a long time.

    It's so human really, to question those who took the longest rather than people who claim they are a certain type after reading one description

    This has been the 3rd and final adjustment to my personality (Oh and mind you I still see ESTP as one of the most ideal personalities and envy those with it)

    It's not like I'm making a sudden random move, I am simply on the road of self discovery

    Though I suspected this would be treated rather hostilely

    I find it humorous that people think I want to be INTP to be part of some kind of 'internet' fan club, on the contrary I've found it impossible to fit in anywhere and hardly see INTP as the ideal personality type but its something rather than I have to live with being different

    I hope however that I can find some people to relate to

    I also hope that others are not so hostile

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unique View Post
    I hope however that I can find some people to relate to

    I also hope that others are not so hostile
    Well, I'm sure you remember that talk that we had over Vent, and how much we related.

    Welcome to the borderline S and N train. It is quite difficult to find common ground with anyone isn't it? Since you're also on the border of T and F (like me). Just thought I'd throw that in there.
    () 9w8-3w4-7w6 tritype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    Well, I'm sure you remember that talk that we had over Vent, and how much we related.

    Welcome to the borderline S and N train. It is quite difficult to find common ground with anyone isn't it? Since you're also on the border of T and F (like me). Just thought I'd throw that in there.
    Yeah indeed thank you for reminding me, it should be noted that I've always tested borderline on the S/N

    We do relate well I actually score high on T though lately have been more F due to some personal things I've been going through

    We should chat soon man

    Edit. Thought I might quote myself and note how long ago this post was made 12-03-2008, 05:34 PM

    Quote Originally Posted by Unique View Post
    I've realized its possible I'm an ENTP but my N/S has always been very close.
    Hardly making this a spontaneous or frivolous decision

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    Yeah definitely, been going to school and having to wake up at 6 am... so a weekend would be best or a Thursday/Friday night via vent. If I see you in there I'll get ya.

    But really, good luck on finding common ground. Here's a question- How exactly did you relate to ISTPs before? And how do you relate to INTPs now?

    Also the interaction styles for ISTP vs INTP are different, here they are-

    Chart-the-Course Is the ISTP's.

    Behind-the-Scenes Is the INTP's.

    Also be sure to check out their type profiles.

    For now I have to leave, damn early classes.
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    Hey my Brother, please see my notes below your quotes. Remeber, Halla does not care what type you are, I'll always think of you as "The Monopoly Man!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Unique View Post
    This has been the 3rd and final adjustment to my personality (Oh and mind you I still see ESTP as one of the most ideal personalities and envy those with it)

    It's not like I'm making a sudden random move, I am simply on the road of self discovery...
    Understood, so your journey has been:

    ESTP -> ISTP....

    ...and then...

    Quote Originally Posted by Unique View Post
    Yeah indeed thank you for reminding me, it should be noted that I've always tested borderline on the S/N
    ISTP -> INTP

    Am I correct?

    So, I cannot help to be compelled to ponder on the possiblilty that you are:

    XXTP

    What are the odds of that? A good friend of mine is balanced on E/I, and I know when he is choosing one mode of thought over another as I hear from him less when he is in the "I" zone.

    By your own admission your N/S scores are "middle of the road" so maybe a type of "X" is warranted there too?

    Thus XXTP might be your "base" or your "default" and what your are experiencing in your life causes a shift in your E/I or N/S preference.

    How's that sound?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unique View Post
    I hope however that I can find some people to relate to

    I also hope that others are not so hostile
    You've related to people here very well for a long time methinks. Remember, anyone who is unecessarily hostile is either rude or uncomfortable in their own skin. Ignore them, or simply point out that their commentary is not warranted or desired. Don't risk getting naughty points.

    Take it easy fella! You can always chat with your ESTP Bro over here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unique View Post
    my theory was that you don't need intuition to operate everyday life as much as you need sensing my view on this has not changed.
    That sounds to me like a natural preference for sensing.

    Everyone has both S and N functions. But type is dependent on which we use dominantly. Don't bother relating to people or type descriptions. Understand the functions, then actively observe yours and others thinking to see how yours compare.

    The older I get, the more I seem to be in my head daydreaming or thinking, and realizing this always makes me second-guess myself. How do I know I don't have a preference for it? Because I can wake myself up out of it.

    Do you primarily use Ne or Ni?

    INTPs and ENTPs use Ne, dominantly. XSTPs use Ni, subconsciously. I know, without a doubt, from hanging around my INTP and ENTP friends and observing the jumps they make in their conversation and thoughts, that I absolutely do not have a dominant preference for Ne. In fact, I have to ask them to go back sometimes when describing something, because they jump too far ahead, skipping important details that help me understand.

    While we are all thinkers, I approach things from a completely different angle. They see big-picture possibilities. I see the realistic application and holes in those possibilities.

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