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    I'm the farthest things from an S, but I get this in an extreme way. When I'm relaxed and people are stressed, I physically feel the stress they feel, usually in the form of tension/tightness or sadness. I've always thought it was my own thing, but lately I've realized it's exactly what the other people are feeling.

    For example, 3 nights ago a friend of mine came over and we were hanging out in my room. I told her that I felt her tension in my back, shoulders, and a bit in the chest, then put my hands on her to comfort her. I think it's a little like what the Reiki weirdos do, but I haven't read enough about Reiki (nor do I care to).

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    I don't feel a lot of empathy for people in pain. I just see it as a problem to be solved.
    People whining about how hot it is and things like that drive me crazy.
    Like cats people should suffer gracefully.
    Quote Originally Posted by maliafee View Post
    Being hot or something... yeah, I don't think that's what I'm talking about. Haha... my INFJ mom does that constantly. It's too hot or too cold all the time.
    Wow. Good stuff. What's everyone's thought on this:

    For the two examples, keep in mind I'm talking about Fi doms, so these interactions usually involve close-knit, smaller groups.

    My ISFP mom wears her emotions on her sleeves. If she's stressed, she's telling people about it. If she's happy, she's showing it. Her emotions are always visible. However, I've seen her do incredible physical feats of stamina (not sleep for 2 days and appear ok), go to work sick, be in constant suffering from her lupis, and she will barely show a trace of it. Her physical constitution amazes me, and her physical status is a closely guarded secret she only reveals in times of desperation.

    Me? I'm the opposite. I completely lack her physical stamina. If I'm tired, I'm letting you know. If I'm sick, I'm apt to complain about it (at least alittle). However, emotionally I become the road warrior. I took on a year of nothing but anger, pain, suffering, death, and betrayal by those closest in my life. Inside I'm going crazy, but only one person even got a peak at it. Everyone else complimented me on how calm I remained.

    So what I'm now wondering is this:

    Is it our empathy that makes us so strong in those regards? Does ISFP physical empathy turn them into physical brickhouses, while INFP emotional empathy make help them become the emotional warriors.

    Is it our empathy that makes it so hard to express that area of our Fi?
    Last edited by Udog; 02-13-2009 at 08:17 PM. Reason: Edit: Shortened the post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmm View Post
    Yes, I experience this.

    It's the main reason why I can't watch violent movies. I also experience it in the positive form too. If someone is having a feel-good sensation, I empathize and feel it too.
    Same boat.(Saw movies are off limits to me.)
    Sometimes I feel like I'm "on Mercury"-

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    tl;dr

    Nah, kidding.

    I tend to cry when watching crying, smile when seeing a smile, yes, I do this pretty regularly. And feel knots in my stomach (or other areas) when people talk about medical procedures. Sometimes I wish I could shut it off once in awhile.
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    hmm.. sometimes I guess you could say I mildly experience this feeling.. but mostly, no, i'm not overly empathetic.

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    maybe not an sfp thing but an isf feeling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    My ISFP mom wears her emotions on her sleeves. If she's stressed, she's telling people about it. If she's happy, she's showing it. Her emotions are always visible. However, I've seen her do incredible physical feats of stamina (not sleep for 2 days and appear ok), go to work sick, be in constant suffering from her lupis, and she will barely show a trace of it. Her physical constitution amazes me, and her physical status is a closely guarded secret she only reveals in times of desperation.

    Me? I'm the opposite. I completely lack her physical stamina. If I'm tired, I'm letting you know. If I'm sick, I'm apt to complain about it (at least alittle). However, emotionally I become the road warrior. I took on a year of nothing but anger, pain, suffering, death, and betrayal by those closest in my life. Inside I'm going crazy, but only one person even got a peak at it. Everyone else complimented me on how calm I remained.

    So what I'm now wondering is this:

    Is it our empathy that makes us so strong in those regards? Does ISFP physical empathy turn them into physical brickhouses, while INFP emotional empathy make help them become the emotional warriors.

    Is it our empathy that makes it so hard to express that area of our Fi?
    I don't wear my emotions on my sleeve. That might be a gender/cultural thing though. I might get told off for this but I think its pretty unmanly to wallow in emotions. Even when completely drunk.

    I don't really feel emotions in a cerebral way anyway. I feel them physically. I only know I'm angry when I feel adrenaline being dumped into my veins. I know I'm sad because I feel tears well up.
    But these are blocked for the most part.

    I hate having to explicitly explain my emotions/feelings.
    I'd prefer to express them through something.

    Does ISFP physical empathy turn them into physical brickhouses?
    I think it has more to do with the need to express myself physically.

    I don't know if I really added anything here. But there it is.
    Last edited by wolfy; 02-20-2009 at 07:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    I'm the farthest things from an S, but I get this in an extreme way. When I'm relaxed and people are stressed, I physically feel the stress they feel, usually in the form of tension/tightness or sadness. I've always thought it was my own thing, but lately I've realized it's exactly what the other people are feeling.
    Then you are not as far from S as you would like to think. What is being described in this thread, to my understanding, is Se at it's finest, noticing the non-verbal cues, being able to pick up on the nuances at an instance, etc. ESP(fitting isn't it) types pick up on non-verbal cues better than anyone and ESTPs have been noted for their ability to change their behavior or appear to take in little when they have taken in a lot from these cues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maliafee View Post
    So, I was complementing Sarah on her fox picture, because I love foxes, and it reminded me of something about myself that I've always wondered about.

    I'd like to call it physical empathy (makes sense to me). When I read about/see footage of something painful, I feel bad for the animal or person experiencing it, yes, but overwhelmingly I feel an uncomfortable physical sensation relating to what's happening to them.

    This doesn't happen exactly every time I see something like that, but often.

    For instance, I once read about a fox having to gnaw his own leg off to get out of getting caught in a bear trap, and my leg actually felt physically disturbed... it felt like IT was being gnawed, without the level of pain I'm sure the fox had to feel. Even if I think about this, and yes, while I write this, my leg feels physically uncomfortable for the poor fox.

    Physical empathy.

    This might extend beyond empathy to other emotions.

    When I'm very depressed, my hands and feet hurt with sharp nerve pains.

    Anyone, I was just wondering if other SFPs (or any other type, for that matter, or any other people ) shared what I experience as a very physical emotional response.

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    I do understand what you are saying but my experience is a little bit different. My physical empathy is always in my stomack (feeling of being sick of what I heard). Or it's not actually sickness but it feels like a great heavy thing is put onto my stomack. It's definitely a physical reaction of empathy but not situated in the "correct limb" as you described (leg). But I guess it's somewhat similar experience?

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    That's interesting. It sounds like you are reacting to the stress of it, while I'm reacting to the physical act of gnawing... Just my thought.

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