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    Quote Originally Posted by Splittet View Post
    You might be right, but global warming is a very bad example, perhaps because it's more of a future than present challenge? I think intuitives are probably more likely to care about and acknowledge it … That being said, you would probably have seen a larger difference between intuitives and sensors a few years ago, as global warming is being more and more accepted as a fact.
    No, global warming is more a concern for SJs, methinks. Think of those old SJs who bitch about the youth. I'd say that sort of thinking could extend to global warming, the fear that the world is suddenly going to end.

    I personally don't think global warming exists. I think it's yet more junk science to keep the public afraid.

    An N probably wouldn't even care about global warming because they're big picture oriented -- and the big picture is that we're all gonna die anyway so why bother trying to save the world?

    Quote Originally Posted by Recluse View Post
    Experimental science, sure, but pseudoscience? I do like some peas with my carrots.

    I'll concede, though, that whether a particular subject should be labeled as a pseudoscience may be open for debate.
    I enjoy eugenics, which is only pseudoscience to appease the PC crowd.

    I believe that certain races are inferior and certain races are superior. It's the same principle as certain breeds of dogs being more intelligent than other breeds. But once again, that's dismissed to appease the PC crowd who are just too afraid to handle the sad, sad reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    No, global warming is more a concern for SJs, methinks. Think of those old SJs who bitch about the youth. I'd say that sort of thinking could extend to global warming, the fear that the world is suddenly going to end.

    I personally don't think global warming exists. I think it's yet more junk science to keep the public afraid.

    An N probably wouldn't even care about global warming because they're big picture oriented -- and the big picture is that we're all gonna die anyway so why bother trying to save the world?
    Haha, I think your instincts are failing you, seriously. Just because you don’t believe in global warming, doesn’t mean you are representative for intuitives.

    Global warming junk science to scare the public? By who? The government? Then they are doing are pretty good job at covering up how they use it as propaganda, since the White House edits climate reports to make them sound more moderate.

    Environmentalist. Taste that word. There is something rebellious and idealistic about it, isn’t it? In my book that fit NFs, the idealists, quite a lot better than conservative SJs, who have the tendency to think the world, will always stay the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    No, global warming is more a concern for SJs, methinks. Think of those old SJs who bitch about the youth. I'd say that sort of thinking could extend to global warming, the fear that the world is suddenly going to end.

    I personally don't think global warming exists. I think it's yet more junk science to keep the public afraid.

    An N probably wouldn't even care about global warming because they're big picture oriented -- and the big picture is that we're all gonna die anyway so why bother trying to save the world?




    I enjoy eugenics, which is only pseudoscience to appease the PC crowd.

    I believe that certain races are inferior and certain races are superior. It's the same principle as certain breeds of dogs being more intelligent than other breeds. But once again, that's dismissed to appease the PC crowd who are just too afraid to handle the sad, sad reality.
    i took a class on biogeochemistry and the fragility of ecosystems and how much we screw around with them really infurates me. i wish people cared more about their environment. i don't mean in the sense of being tree-huggers, but there's something to teh respect that should be shown toward the place which provides you with the H2O you drink and the energy you consume, etc.

    Global warming is a side branch of it, but it really stresses me when people waste unnecessarily.
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    *Faith is the art of holding on to things your reason once accepted, despite your changing moods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    I personally don't think global warming exists. I think it's yet more junk science to keep the public afraid.
    Cool. I think it's so they can control the weather and kill us with hurricanes etcetera without us getting suspicious. The UN and others have expressed desires to cut the world population much more drastically than could be achieved with (voluntary) birth control.

    It is fascinating to weed out all the differing agendas in that particular debate. Both the European and American attitudes to global climate change involve it existing - they just each push the explanations that most benefit themselves. Solar explanations are now gaining popularity. But ultimately, they're all in on the plan to secretly cull us.

    And you're right - every human dies and what a fascinating time and scenario in which to die! Quite a privilege to be the last of the multi-government generation. I frequently wonder how my end will pan out. Not that I wouldn't make efforts towards it not being in some modern form of concentration camp or unleashed plague if possible, but I'm not sitting home crying about it either. I bet every dead person who's done that regrets it, whether or not their fears became reality.

    But, I'm not sure how this relates to the N/S issue. They would process this sort of issue differently, but each could come to the same conclusions in their own way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    i took a class on biogeochemistry and the fragility of ecosystems and how much we screw around with them really infurates me. i wish people cared more about their environment. i don't mean in the sense of being tree-huggers, but there's something to teh respect that should be shown toward the place which provides you with the H2O you drink and the energy you consume, etc.

    Global warming is a side branch of it, but it really stresses me when people waste unnecessarily.
    Well since overpopulation is a factor for global warming, I think that Asia, and specifically China, should take responsibility. The Chinese must be exterminated. As I can recall, it is commies who are responsible for global warming -- remember Chernobyl? I'd say that was a pretty big factor!

    I share your sentiments with tree-huggers, I can't stand those fucking morons. I think hippies ought to be sterilized.

    And do not listen to college professors -- they're under commie influence. Bolshevists, I tell you!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by xNFJiminy View Post
    I bet every dead person who's done that regrets it, whether or not their fears became reality.
    The wonderful thing about dead people is that they don't regret anything. And they certainly don't annoy me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    This is interesting-- we bring so much to the table when we analyze ourselves. I think that I come from a family that tends toward the N and the P, and I wonder if this is why I thought I was an SJ at first (maybe I am, it's hard to know, given these biases and preconceptions- this stuff is all pretty subjective). My mother and older brother are SO N, I guess I thought I couldn't possibly be what they are. Same with my dad-- I thought he was ISFJ but now I think he's INFJ. Our N just isn't quite as strong as theirs.
    Just following up on the N vs. S portion of the thread:

    My wife has formally tested as an INFP and shows all the traditional INFP "markers" in her personal life. But she doesn't exhibit much obvious N in public. She comes from a blue-collar, no-nonsense family that prized "hands-on" skills and common sense. Her grandfather raised pigs and hunted squirrels to feed the family, and her father worked in a factory all his life. Flights of fancy were frowned upon, and the kids were discouraged from going to college. Higher education and intellectual pursuits were considered a waste of time.

    Since she only got a high school education, she doesn't trust herself to brainstorm or discuss intellectual subjects in company. She sticks to light conversation or remains aloof. But she likes hanging around with Ns and she's quick on the pick-up.

    I think her N is most active in those areas that are most private for her, for example her religion and her art. They're both non-traditional and even chaotic in a way. She fences off those areas and keeps them in a place where she doesn't have to put up with other people's oversight and second-guessing, and I guess that's where she feels she can set her N free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    The wonderful thing about dead people is that they don't regret anything.
    How many have you asked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Well since overpopulation is a factor for global warming, I think that Asia, and specifically China, should take responsibility. The Chinese must be exterminated. As I can recall, it is commies who are responsible for global warming -- remember Chernobyl? I'd say that was a pretty big factor!

    I share your sentiments with tree-huggers, I can't stand those fucking morons. I think hippies ought to be sterilized.

    And do not listen to college professors -- they're under commie influence. Bolshevists, I tell you!!!



    The wonderful thing about dead people is that they don't regret anything. And they certainly don't annoy me.
    NEITHER of us are old enough to remember chernobyl. (although one of my classmates was russian and in-utero within 100 miles of chernobyl. he turned out.... mostly... okay. actually, he could also just be the uber-style INTJ. we were good buddies in high school lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    actually, he could also just be the uber-style INTJ.
    Sweet new term.
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    than to serve and obey them. - David Hume

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    NEITHER of us are old enough to remember chernobyl. (although one of my classmates was russian and in-utero within 100 miles of chernobyl. he turned out.... mostly... okay. actually, he could also just be the uber-style INTJ. we were good buddies in high school lol)
    What other style is there?

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