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    Quote Originally Posted by millerm277 View Post
    I'll come right out and say it, based on the description, I'm quite cocky with some things I'm good at.

    I'm well-known for being "cocky" about my skiing, talking about jumping off cliffs, and seeing how fast I can possibly go, when I'm having conversations about it.....then people are surprised that I wasn't making up shit when they're actually with me and they see me do it?
    Millerm277 it was brash. But was it in the eye of the beholder? I got rid of it to keep the peace. Mostly bull - inebriated. Come from a different forum type. Wink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brouhaha View Post
    Yeah, I'm usually very respective to criticism even if I pass it off at first. If he ignores your arguments, chances are he heard them and just needs time to think it over. Just before going to sleep is always good, I take forever to get to sleep most nights because I'm just thinking about all the important things that happened. One of the reasons that quiet days are nice some times.

    Or naps.
    Helpful. I'll try napping tomorrow - it's warm and I'm going biking.
    Last edited by Bamboo; 02-07-2009 at 01:21 PM. Reason: proofread
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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenity View Post
    Self-confidence is healthy. Cockiness is projecting that confidence outwardly to draw attention to it. To me, cockiness stems from a need/desire of others to realize your "self-confidence", but in actuality stems from a lack of self-confidence.

    Self-confidence is knowing you're amazing without needing to have anyone tell you so.
    I agree with this entire statement, especially the bolded part. Cockiness definitely has something to do with insecurity.

    I've been labeled arrogant and lack humility. But I would not say I'm cocky. That's a negative trait.

    And to answer the original question, no I don't think cockiness has anything to do with type.

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    I love the xSTP cockiness! I would not have them any other way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne View Post
    I agree with this entire statement, especially the bolded part. Cockiness definitely has something to do with insecurity.

    I've been labeled arrogant and lack humility. But I would not say I'm cocky. That's a negative trait.

    And to answer the original question, no I don't think cockiness has anything to do with type.
    That counts as cocky in most people's books.

    I have 3 STP brothers, an STP dad and and a former STP flatmate. They all ooze cocky. I veer between loving their cockiness and wanting to rip their heads off.

    IMO, the STP brand of cockiness definitely does not spring from insecurity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne View Post
    I agree with this entire statement, especially the bolded part. Cockiness definitely has something to do with insecurity.

    I've been labeled arrogant and lack humility. But I would not say I'm cocky. That's a negative trait.

    And to answer the original question, no I don't think cockiness has anything to do with type.
    Well I think I was originally looking at it from a different perspective. There is a huge difference between cockiness people consciously project (which could stem from insecurity) and cockiness that is perceived by other people.

    Looking from the other side of the fence, and being an STP, I know there are some things that I do all the time and enjoy being damn good at. I can see how my skill-mastery (more importantly how that mastery makes me feel) can be perceived as showy, cocky, arrogant, etc. But if people misunderstand me well that's just too bad


    So certainly, cockiness perceived by others could just be a personality trait

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenity View Post
    Self-confidence is healthy. Cockiness is projecting that confidence outwardly to draw attention to it. To me, cockiness stems from a need/desire of others to realize your "self-confidence", but in actuality stems from a lack of self-confidence.

    I'd say cockiness is a trait of immature STPs. He'll learn - we all do.
    You seem to be describing what Dave Kelly has coined as "Compensatory Narcissism", which as you may see is the personality disorder for his "Inventive" type, which as you will see he equates to being ENTP. However I cannot dismiss that I was cocky when you younger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ99 View Post
    No. He is fairly good at more or less everything. But only good. I'm better than him at a few things like maths, chemistry and stuff like that but he is good at mostly everything in life.
    But he always has been but he hasn't always been cocky.
    I think it's problem to you because many NT's value competence the most and you seem to want to compare him with your own skills.

    It's not necessarily that he is cocky, it might be just that he has strong personality and a good self esteem. So, his inner strenght can look like cockiness for people who aren't similar.

    Quote Originally Posted by phoenity View Post
    Well I think I was originally looking at it from a different perspective. There is a huge difference between cockiness people consciously project (which could stem from insecurity) and cockiness that is perceived by other people.
    Excactly what I meant!
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    Eh...
    What's the interest of goodness and victory if we can't be cocky about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alcea rosea View Post
    I think it's problem to you because many NT's value competence the most and you seem to want to compare him with your own skills.

    It's not necessarily that he is cocky, it might be just that he has strong personality and a good self esteem. So, his inner strengt can look like cockiness for people who aren't similar.



    Excactly what I meant!
    Actually i wanted to deflate him for my (and his) best mates good who is ESFP and hates his cockiness as the ISTP keeps comparing how he is better to the ESFP and he hates it.
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