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    i wouldn't type some of those people as ISFPs so i'm not sure what they have in common.
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    To see the common thread, look at who they are, not the specifics of what they do. There is a similar quiet but wacky personality streak in them all. They are all slightly off beat, and make a big impression with distinct and memorable personalities, but at the same time they are reserved in a way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noigmn View Post
    To see the common thread, look at who they are, not the specifics of what they do. There is a similar quiet but wacky personality streak in them all. They are all slightly off beat, and make a big impression with distinct and memorable personalities, but at the same time they are reserved in a way.
    Yeah, I can see that.

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    i want to understand isfp creativity. what does Se do in terms of a creative process? how abstract can it get? how do Fi Se interact like Fi Ne interact? or like Ni Fe? where does tertiary Ni come into play for isfp?

    i'm thinking image control. design more so than (symbolic) meaning. technical tinkering art-craft. physical perfection.

    Fi core seems legible, but how does it differ in appearance from the Fi core of infp? how does it organize, express itself? focusing on pairing and arranging strings and codes and concrete blocks already present? is isfp language more pictorial and less wordy? does Se generate or store IDEAS? or is it more bodily remembering than i realize? constant sketching, combing, refining?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the state i am in View Post
    i want to understand isfp creativity. what does Se do in terms of a creative process? how abstract can it get? how do Fi Se interact like Fi Ne interact? or like Ni Fe? where does tertiary Ni come into play for isfp?
    Wow, lots to think about/answer. I think tertiary Ni is most obvious in ISFPs through our creativity, my "aha" moments usually come when I'm creating something, "that's just right" or "how bout this?". Ideas and visions will just hit me out of nowhere, I interpret this is as tertiary Ni.

    i'm thinking image control. design more so than (symbolic) meaning. technical tinkering art-craft. physical perfection.
    I think, Fi can be perfectionistic, and Se pays attention to the details/subtleties, it's hard to put in words how they operate together.

    is isfp language more pictorial and less wordy?
    For me, yes.

    does Se generate or store IDEAS?
    Hmmm neither, it absorbs what is in the present moment.

    or is it more bodily remembering than i realize? constant sketching, combing, refining?
    Yes it might work that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    Hmmm neither, it absorbs what is in the present moment.
    does it keep the information long-term or is that more Si? how do you turn being in the present into WRITING? how does bob dylan write songs? how would you write a song? how do you build something from nothing? particularly with words, but also in general?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the state i am in View Post
    does it keep the information long-term or is that more Si? how do you turn being in the present into WRITING? how does bob dylan write songs? how would you write a song? how do you build something from nothing? particularly with words, but also in general?
    Si is much better at storing information I think (I have a terrible memory in general). In terms of writing, I think I draw on Fi and Ni for the words, I don't think Se helps much in regards to writing but I could be wrong. What I want to express most likely comes from Fi, deep feelings that I would probably keep to myself otherwise, and tertiary Ni would hopefully help keep it interesting, maybe more symbolic and meaningful? I used to write poems every now and then, I would start by listening to instrumental music (hey look there's Se!) and would draw out a strong emotion or feeling through the music and then words would just flow, I think Ni helped to make connections between the words and give them a more symbolic edge.

    Hope that helps, I'm not very good at putting this stuff in words.

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    Man... good question...
    I can't think of anything to add to what Quinlan said. Except to say I think he got it right.

    You've got me thinking now...

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    i can see how reading extremely descriptive language could be Se. less metaphorical and more visual, concrete, lush, etc. but writing from an imagined space- where do the images come from? what role does tertiary Ni play, how significant is it for the everyday experience of an isfp? and where does Se get involved?

    in a very basic way i can see how auxilary and tertiary perceiving functions could work hand-in-hand in a very powerful and productive way. i love Ni/Se balance. very detailed, descriptive, imagistic, etc. yet character driven, development driven, story driven, etc.

    i struggle to feel how the imagination would work, virtual environment, from where it would operate, what would feed what, etc. i'm thinking bob dylan and jk rowling, and whether stuart murdoch of belle & sebastian is an isfp, and whether the writer anais nin is actually an isfp too.

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    alot of these guys are not ISFP's.

    let me redivise you're list:
    Bob Dylan: Strongly isfp
    Michael Jackson: yes
    Brad Pitt: No
    Janet Jackson: Unsure
    Pierce Brosnan: Unsure
    Nicole Kidman:No
    Adam Sandler:No
    Robert DeNiro:No
    Ozzy Osbourne: Leaning on isfp
    Jon Bon Jovi: unsure
    Barbara Streisand: Yes.
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