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    Default SPs Can Be Successful In Any Career:

    It never fails that I read something where a SP has turned to Myers-Briggs to help them in some immediate dire need. Generally it’s a question of what direction they may consider career-wise based on being one of the SP types. I don’t know whether this helps, but I am listing some qualities that many may already know of themselves or have read in other places. When we lock ourselves into trying to match up with particular jobs, I think it results in the one thing that SP types fear most in having their freedom hindered. So I think it necessary to reverse the order and look at our skills set that most will have in common in being ESTP, ESFP, ISTP or ISFP:
    ESTP Personality Outgoing, Straight-Shooting Doers!

    ESTP personalitythe ultimate realist! Enthusiastic and excitable, you are "doers" who live in the world of action. Blunt, straight-forward risk-takers, you are willing to plunge right into things and get their hands dirty. You live in the here-and-now, and place little importance on introspection or theory. You look at the facts of a situation, quickly decide what should be done, execute the action, and move on to the next thing. These are a few of the ESTP factors making up your list of personality traits you can use to find a career fit that is a natural!!

    Extraverted with Sensing, Thinking and Perception your career personality profile would include the following natural tendencies among others:

    • Breadth of interests
    • Reliance upon facts
    • Use of logic and analysis
    • Adaptability
    • Grounding in realism
    • Natural active curiosity
    • Friendliness
    • Flexibility and tolerance

    There are more natural traits making up your self personality profile but those above indicate a natural ability for careers that may have some interpersonal conflict, objective and analytical problem solving, and skilled negotiating. In addition careers requiring ongoing practical adaptation to changing environment/circumstances attract because your type are natural trouble-shooters. Your analytical skills are used on the facts of a situation; therefore you are very good at making use of available resources.

    The ESTP personality type will move naturally towards careers allowing you to meet and interact spontaneously with many people; offering something different every day, and is fun. Careers that let you use your ability to search for solutions to problems, using first-hand experience and then critically analyzing these solutions to find the best ones. Also, careers that let you respond to unplanned situations, using unconventional approaches, where you can skillfully negotiate satisfactory solutions, you are a natural for; also, careers that involve real people and things, not theories or ideas; where your efforts are directed to producing a tangible product or service, you will enjoy!
    ESFP Personality Fun-Loving and Enthusiastic!

    ESFP personality you thrive in the world of people possibilities. You love people and new experiences; lively and fun-loving, you enjoy being the center of attention. You live in the here-and-now, and relish excitement and drama in your life. You have very strong inter-personal skills, and may find yourself in the role of the peacemaker often. Since you make decisions by using your personal values, you are usually very sympathetic and concerned for other people's well-being. You are usually quite generous and warm, and are very observant about other people, and seem to sense what is wrong with someone before others might, responding warmly with a solution to a practical need. You may not be the best advice-givers in the world, because you dislike theory and future-planning, but you are great for giving practical care. These are just some of the ESFP factors that make up your list of personality traits you can use to find a career that is a natural fit!

    Extraverted with Sensing, Feeling and Perception your career personality profile would include the following natural tendencies among others:

    • Reliance upon facts
    • Breadth of interests
    • Warmth and sympathy (emphasis on relationships)
    • Adaptability
    • Enthusiasm
    • Attention to detail
    • Grounding in realism
    • Active curiosity

    There are more natural traits making up ESFP self personality profile but those above indicate a natural ability for careers calling upon your very strong inter-personal skills, uncommon sympathy for others, natural peacemaking ability, powers of observation and cooperation. ESFP is often drawn to any career that requires you to meet, work with, or entertain people. You may also have an attraction to careers requiring a flair for the aesthetic and you can be skilled at jobs that involve designing, molding or shaping things in a hands-on way.

    The ESFP personality type will move naturally towards careers that allow you to get personally involved in the tasks at hand, working directly with clients or customers, out in the field rather than away from the action. Also, you will be a natural for careers requiring the skillful handling of people and conflicts, the ability to ease tensions to help groups work more cooperatively, and the ability to motivate others. In addition, work that lets you interact throughout the workday with other easygoing and social people who share your enthusiasm, energy, and realistic point of view you will probably find naturally rewarding!
    ISTP Personality the Adventuresome, Analytical Problem Solvers!

    ISTP personality is fiercely independent and must have the space to make their decisions about what comes next. Loyal to causes and beliefs they are firm believers that people should be treated with equity and fairness. Action oriented, spontaneous, adaptable, they avoid making judgments based upon personal values, these are some of the ISTP factors that comprise your list of personality traits you can use to find a career that is a natural fit.

    Introverted with Sensing, Thinking and Perception your career personality profile would include the following natural tendencies:

    • Depth of concentration
    • Natural reliance upon facts
    • Use of logic and analysis
    • Great adaptability
    • Willingness to critically analyze facts
    • Pragmatic approach to problem solving
    • Keen powers of observation
    • Love of adventure

    There are more natural traits making up your self personality profile but those above indicate a natural ability for careers that demand a tough minded analytical and realistic approach. Many are related to building and production, while others involve providing direct delivery of technically oriented services.

    The ISTP personality type will move naturally towards careers that let you apply your understanding and technical knowledge of the world around you and see the logical principles underlying your work; lets you engage in troubleshooting and problem solving. Work that is fun and active and lets you work independently with frequent opportunities to get out of your workspace and be outdoors. Work that lets you work independently, with a minimum of supervision, and where you are not required to closely supervise others; to name just a few.
    ISFP Personality the Natural Artists!

    ISFP personality has an extremely well-developed ability to appreciate aesthetic qualities. You have passionate and intense feelings. You are very quick-witted and spatial in your thinking. You are probably more spiritually aware than most people, and are more in touch with your soul than others. Also you are usually good listeners who genuinely want to hear about someone's problems, and genuinely want to help them. These are just some of the ISFP factors that comprise your list of personality traits you can use to find a career that is a natural fit.

    Introverted with Sensing, Feeling and Perception your career personality profile would include the following natural tendencies:

    • Warmth and sympathy (emphasis on interpersonal values)
    • Adaptability
    • Realistic grounding
    • Great depth of feeling
    • Very personal approach to life
    • Idealism
    • Sense of aesthetics
    • Keen sense of detail

    There are more natural traits making up your self personality profile but those above indicate a natural ability for careers where you help others in a very pragmatic way. You naturally communicate kindness in a ways that make you exceptional candidates for working with people in need, children or animals. Your idealism and deep feeling make you particularly sensitive to the suffering of others.

    The ISFP personality type will move naturally towards careers that let you be consistent with your strong, inner values, and is something you care deeply about and want to contribute your energy and talents to; work that is done with others in a supportive and affirming climate where you are a loyal and cooperative member of a team. In addition, work that gives you freedom to work independently but nearby other compatible and courteous people, and where you don’t feel restricted by excessive rules, structure, or inflexible operating procedures, you will gravitate towards.

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    I don't think that type should tell anyone what career to follow. I think it's more importantto follow your heart. And besides, there are only 16 types. All the careers in the world cannot be divided just between 16 types.

    Basically, I believe that you can be successful in any career, no matter your type.

    I don't know if my post is of any relevance to this topic, however that's what I had to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by me_plus_one View Post
    I don't think that type should tell anyone what career to follow.
    disagree, I work in the tech industry, and used to be a huge MBTI skeptic, thought it was psychobabble bs, but over a time came to see that type is better predictor of job fit than IQ, school attended, or any other measure

    for example, my type - entp - make terrible tax accountants even with good grades, good schooling, etc, similarly I've seen many estjs struggle in strategic positions where we don't provide much structure while the entps do best there, estps dominate sales engineering, they also tend to be high achievers, while entps often underachieve

    always make sure we see individual strengths, because there are always a few people who don't conform to type, but without any push from the company NTs own product marketing, strategy, and the exec office suite, STPs sales engineering, SJs accounting, Is engineering, and Fs sales, hr, and pr

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    Also should point out how smart people of any type learn to complement each other. We had an ESFP woman who was fun, friendly, and popular with her employees, who was promoted to a high-level mktg position that required a lot of product knowledge, which she really didn't have. Smartly, she pulled in a tech curious ENTP as her right hand man who taught her all she needed to know about technology and strategy, and she was very effective in a position traditionally held by NTs. Was a sad day when she left the company.

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    hmm. that could be a good thread idea.
    does your mbti type match your current career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel View Post
    disagree, I work in the tech industry, and used to be a huge MBTI skeptic, thought it was psychobabble bs, but over a time came to see that type is better predictor of job fit than IQ, school attended, or any other measure

    for example, my type - entp - make terrible tax accountants even with good grades, good schooling, etc, similarly I've seen many estjs struggle in strategic positions where we don't provide much structure while the entps do best there, estps dominate sales engineering, they also tend to be high achievers, while entps often underachieve

    always make sure we see individual strengths, because there are always a few people who don't conform to type, but without any push from the company NTs own product marketing, strategy, and the exec office suite, STPs sales engineering, SJs accounting, Is engineering, and Fs sales, hr, and pr

    Yeah, that's a good point there. But why would entps be underachievers? That, I don't get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    hmm. that could be a good thread idea.
    does your mbti type match your current career.

    Well, let's see here:


    ISFP personality has an extremely well-developed ability to appreciate aesthetic qualities. You have passionate and intense feelings. You are very quick-witted and spatial in your thinking. You are probably more spiritually aware than most people, and are more in touch with your soul than others. Also you are usually good listeners who genuinely want to hear about someone's problems, and genuinely want to help them. These are just some of the ISFP factors that comprise your list of personality traits you can use to find a career that is a natural fit.

    I'd MAJORLY agree with all of that.


    • Warmth and sympathy (emphasis on interpersonal values)
    • Adaptability
    • Realistic grounding
    • Great depth of feeling
    • Very personal approach to life
    • Idealism
    • Sense of aesthetics
    • Keen sense of detail
    Yes to adaptability, realistic grounding, personal approach to life, and (sometimes) idealism. Major yes to great depth of feeling and sense of aesthetics. Sometimes I have a keen sense of detail, but only when I'm interested in the project.

    There are more natural traits making up your self personality profile but those above indicate a natural ability for careers where you help others in a very pragmatic way. You naturally communicate kindness in a ways that make you exceptional candidates for working with people in need, children or animals. Your idealism and deep feeling make you particularly sensitive to the suffering of others.
    I'm a youth services librarian, and I work with kids. I'm told I communicate kindness, and I'm sensitive to others' feelings. The "working with kids" part is very stereotypical of ISFPs, but maybe not so much the "librarian" part.

    The ISFP personality type will move naturally towards careers that let you be consistent with your strong, inner values, and is something you care deeply about and want to contribute your energy and talents to; work that is done with others in a supportive and affirming climate where you are a loyal and cooperative member of a team. In addition, work that gives you freedom to work independently but nearby other compatible and courteous people, and where you don’t feel restricted by excessive rules, structure, or inflexible operating procedures, you will gravitate towards.
    MAJOR yes to a career that lets me be consistent with my values -- I wouldn't be promoting library services if I didn't wholeheartedly believe in their value. I also have to work in a supportive, affirming environment, and have made it a point to work only at certain library branches, and for certain managers. I also prize the fact that my job gives me a lot of personal and creative freedom, in that I don't work for micromanagers, and the people above me trust me to do a good job, and also trust that I will get my work done without needing to hover over my shoulder. Years ago I left a library job that I thought had too many excessive rules and too much structure for the job I have now, and I'm much happier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by me_plus_one View Post
    Yeah, that's a good point there. But why would entps be underachievers? That, I don't get.
    If you have ever worked with one you would understand. lol

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    Here is the ENTP:
    ENTP Personality Ingenious Visionary!

    The ENTP personality is driven to understand, constantly absorbing ideas and new concepts around them. You have a natural ability to understand others intuitively, and you have natural ability at almost anything that interests you. As the idea people you have a natural interest and ability to conceive of and get things going more than finishing them, others can do that. You are mentally quick, enjoy verbal sparring and debate sometimes you like to argue. These are just a few of the ENTP factors that make up you list of personality traits you can use to find a career that is a natural fit.

    Extraverted with Intuition Thinking and Perception your career personality profile would include the following natural tendencies among others:

    Breadth of interests
    Grasp of possibilities
    Use of logic and analysis
    Naturally comfortable with the abstract
    Nonconformity
    Creativity
    Problem solving abilities
    Improvise

    There are more natural traits making up your ENTP self personality profile but those above indicate a natural ability for careers requiring inventiveness and an analytical mind. You would also be a natural fit for careers in science, communications, and technology. Also fields offering a chance for variety, autonomy and excitement in the workplace would be naturals for you.

    The ENTP personality type will move naturally towards a career that gives you opportunities to engage in creative problem solving and/or generating new and innovative approaches to problems. Lets you experience a variety of situations filled with fun, action, and excitement; a career that follows a logical order and is based upon objective and fair standards, rather than the likes or dislikes of one individual; a career that lets you increase your professional and personal power and interact frequently with other powerful people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by me_plus_one View Post
    Yeah, that's a good point there. But why would entps be underachievers? That, I don't get.
    Environment.

    ENTPs underachieve because they often try to squeeze into work or school environments that are poorly suited for them.

    If you look at great ENTP achievers, from DaVinci to Churchill to Thomas Edison, they all worked odd hours and did their best when they organized what they had to around their energy levels, not the clock.

    ENTPs must have change to succeed. If they can't create it in their current jobs, they have to find a new one, which is why we're always job hopping if we're not entrepreneurs. If they force the issue and try to stay in one place too long in order to look better on a resume, they'll massively underachieve, because their innovative skills will go into hibernation, and will be replaced with whatever organization skills are left, which are usually pretty thin.

    ESTPs must feel important to succeed. So if you promote them enough, and don't force them to make future commitments (they hate those), they'll stay at one company forever. And they're usually very successful. While our C-level execs are mostly NTs, many of our VPs are ESTPs, who have leapfrogged over Harvard and Stanford-educated engineers who don't have their communication skills.

    While I've seen many ENTPs underachieve, only time I've seen ESTPs underachieve is when they try to be entrepreneurs. Just as 9-5 is the wrong environment for ENTPs, a startup with a limited operating history is the wrong environment for ESTPs. While ESTPs are just as good as ENTPs at understanding technology, they never come up with the wildly creative product or marketing ideas that really get a small company going. They also hate applying an unconventional marketing idea if they don't feel it's been validated by someone else's experience. But this is exactly what most successful startups do.

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