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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    Well, i would usually see sensing capabilities as things most often discribed on tests to rule out preferences for N vs S. Mostly though, it is the living in the now factor. The being aware now. I think that while Ne takes in a lot of information, it needs time to process it properly. At the same time, via my observation, Se takes in the same info and process it faster, less complex, but still along the same path. So i think what is the time waisted in being an N. Does it make that much of a difference in understanding and accuracy?
    Intuition seems to be more time oriented, more interested in what it can extrapolate from sensory input than the direct impression of the input itself.

    How did this come to be and what will it turn into?

    To me as a sensor this seems like constantly running on an internal treadmill when you could be just enjoying things for what they are with no, or very little, regard for what they were or might become.
    Studying the past or planning for the future are, to me, housekeeping chores -- something that needs to be done sometimes for practical purposes and then let go of so you can go back to enjoying right now.

    It is true that the only "time" you will ever be alive in is this moment.
    Every other temporal space might have been or may be, but is not.

    The Aesops fable about the ant and the grasshopper is intended to praise the ant's industriousness and deride the grasshopper's blithe disregard for the future in favor of enjoying the now.
    But the grasshopper was always my hero.
    He enjoyed the summer while it lasted and passed on when it did.
    What could be more perfect than that?

    Is it better to survive a long time and only live a little or to survive for only a season an live a lot?

    I guess it's a matter of taste and a preference that divides sensors from intuitives.

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    So, I tried this out you guys. Its not working!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    So, I tried this out you guys. Its not working!
    How about a game of ping pong instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    So, I tried this out you guys. Its not working!
    Do or do not. There is no "try."

    But what went wrong?
    You can't spell "justice" without ISTJ.

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    If I am understand this correctly, Se tend to live in the moment more than iN by focusing on the external environment. Am I getting this correctly?

    I want to live on the NOW.

    Sarah

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    This is not a sarcastic thread. I would like to get more in touch with my sensory capabilities. How would one beging to maintain focus over such things? Is it a nmeasure of mental strength?
    Don't ask a bunch of Sensors to summarize their data-gathering function in terms of over-arching theory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mallow View Post
    Intuition seems to be more time oriented, more interested in what it can extrapolate from sensory input than the direct impression of the input itself.

    How did this come to be and what will it turn into?

    To me as a sensor this seems like constantly running on an internal treadmill when you could be just enjoying things for what they are with no, or very little, regard for what they were or might become.
    Studying the past or planning for the future are, to me, housekeeping chores -- something that needs to be done sometimes for practical purposes and then let go of so you can go back to enjoying right now.

    It is true that the only "time" you will ever be alive in is this moment.
    Every other temporal space might have been or may be, but is not.

    The Aesops fable about the ant and the grasshopper is intended to praise the ant's industriousness and deride the grasshopper's blithe disregard for the future in favor of enjoying the now.
    But the grasshopper was always my hero.
    He enjoyed the summer while it lasted and passed on when it did.
    What could be more perfect than that?

    Is it better to survive a long time and only live a little or to survive for only a season an live a lot?

    I guess it's a matter of taste and a preference that divides sensors from intuitives.
    I think much of what you describe here is very SP, and not so much just S on its own. The grasshopper is definitely an SP hero, but the SJ would be the one deriding the grasshopper for his poor planning/bad J function. It doesn't really have nearly as much to do with his S function.

    And for Sarah, Plain and ENTJ:

    Write down the trivial details. Focus on stopping to study the particulars of something instead of skimming it, forming a general conceptual model to represent it and then moving on to associating with other such conceptual models.

    Basically, we Ns are really good at recognizing the relationships between organisms that form a complex system called a forest--but damn, we can't seem to remember what any of the trees themselves looked like.

    Another good example is...riding in the car. When I'm in the car I'm almost always busy thinking about what I will do when I get there, where this trip is leading. An S would be more likely to take note of the specific physical attributes of the car's interior and the visible natural scenery outside it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Don't ask a bunch of Sensors to summarize their data-gathering function in terms of over-arching theory?
    Sensors can do this in the same way that Intuitives can just be aware of their surroundings without associating them with some conceptual model.

    Intuitives are appalled at Sensors' apparent inability to see the "big picture".

    Sensors are amused by Intuitives' immersion in the "big picture" to the extent that they tend to walk into brick walls right in front of them.

    Maturity should open the world of conceptual possibility to sensors as it brings intuitives enough into the present moment that they begin to experience things as they are without a conceptual overlay.

    Enlightening for both, I would say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Another good example is...riding in the car. When I'm in the car I'm almost always busy thinking about what I will do when I get there, where this trip is leading. An S would be more likely to take note of the specific physical attributes of the car's interior and the visible natural scenery outside it.
    I hope nobody take this the wrong way, but, I have to understand What goes inside the mind of an S while observing the detail of the street/other cars/car's interior?

    Because I am an N, naturally, will think about my destinate/what I am going to say/do, and if I decided to act as an S by observe physical details while traveling to let's say a stressful meeting. I would say to myself "well, I'm just so stressed about going to this meeting and I feel like having a panick attack, maybe I should just focus on anything else to take my mind off the meeting".

    What goes inside the mind of an S while going to a stressful meeting.

    Apologize if my english suck!

    Sarah

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    So, I tried this out you guys. Its not working!
    More specifics please.

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