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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    This is not a sarcastic thread. I would like to get more in touch with my sensory capabilities. How would one beging to maintain focus over such things? Is it a nmeasure of mental strength?
    HOW ABOUT INSTEAD...

    You use your awesome ENTP brain to design a mind control ray gun and I use my S tactical skills to build it and then together we TAKE OVER THE WORLD!

    MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


    I'm gonna go make a salad now.

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    I wonder if by learning to use your S more farts with somehow be smellier. If not, maybe you'll be able to distinguish them by texture and what-not, kind of like a wine taster. :P
    "... you think deeply about stuff [that] nobody cares about and hardly anybody can understand you." ~ Peguy talking about Ni users. So true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    This is not a sarcastic thread. I would like to get more in touch with my sensory capabilities. How would one beging to maintain focus over such things? Is it a nmeasure of mental strength?
    I would be interested in what you may consider sensing capabilities since Jung says that dominant Ne types, when describing themselves usually described Se traits. Based on Lenore Thomson and Linda Berens, the Se/Ne functions have the most in common.

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    Jeffster Illustrates the Artisan Temperament <---- click here

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    YAY toys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Clean. Cleaning is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bella View Post
    Clean. Cleaning is good.
    Especally cleaning with no-toxic, eco-friendly cleaning products you made yourself out of vinegar, baking soda, castile soap, essential oils, etc. The essential oils make it fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by "?" View Post
    I would be interested in what you may consider sensing capabilities since Jung says that dominant Ne types, when describing themselves usually described Se traits. Based on Lenore Thomson and Linda Berens, the Se/Ne functions have the most in common.
    Well, i would usually see sensing capabilities as things most often discribed on tests to rule out preferences for N vs S. Mostly though, it is the living in the now factor. The being aware now. I think that while Ne takes in a lot of information, it needs time to process it properly. At the same time, via my observation, Se takes in the same info and process it faster, less complex, but still along the same path. So i think what is the time waisted in being an N. Does it make that much of a difference in understanding and accuracy?

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    Listen/read/process information more literally. Take up wood-working, auto mechanics, knitting, Dancing with the Stars, other such 'sensing' hobbies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by "?" View Post
    I would be interested in what you may consider sensing capabilities since Jung says that dominant Ne types, when describing themselves usually described Se traits. Based on Lenore Thomson and Linda Berens, the Se/Ne functions have the most in common.
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    Well, i would usually see sensing capabilities as things most often discribed on tests to rule out preferences for N vs S. Mostly though, it is the living in the now factor. The being aware now. I think that while Ne takes in a lot of information, it needs time to process it properly. At the same time, via my observation, Se takes in the same info and process it faster, less complex, but still along the same path. So i think what is the time waisted in being an N. Does it make that much of a difference in understanding and accuracy?

    If people who believe they're _N_Ps describe Ne as basically being the same as Se, then wouldn't that point to their being mistyped, and their better fit one of the _S_P types? From what I understand, you can't possibly do both well, because they're opposites. Ne is about interpreting what's in front of you -- making abstract connections between what's there and what isn't there at the moment, and Se is about making quick, accurate observations and acting effectively on them. Kind of hard to act on present-moment reality AND make all sorts of abstract connections. I'm sure you've all seen this article by now:

    How to tell iNtuiting from extraverted Sensing

    the article's example of noticing forests or trees:

    Extraverted Sensing - Notices the rich detail in the whole forest - the trees, their color and texture, their sounds, their smells, the pattern of light and dark...

    Extraverted iNtuiting - Thinks of the fractal patterns, the wide range of possibilities in the forest, how this forest is part of the ecosystem and is affected by polllution from the city...
    That said, it's apparently extremely common for SPs to score as N_Ps on type tests:

    "Over the last four years, in the MBTI® Qualifying Programs, advanced programs and elsewhere, we found a disproportionate number of people who had reported preferences for the iNtuiting process while their behaviors seemed to resemble the Artisan-SP temperament pattern..."
    So the definitions of Ne have gotten very muddied up with Se-related material.

    (FWIW, I score as an N_P on type tests, because most tests, including the MBTI, are all written so to make N sound much more relatable to many SPs than the choices you're supposed to select to indicate a preference for S.)

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