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    Quote Originally Posted by rivercrow View Post
    Kind of a shame to leap to conclusions that way.

    People grew and got to know each other during this thread.
    My agreement was with the first post; especially with the expressed concern about the rather prevalent idea that the ISTJs are there to pick up the garbage and the ISTPs are there to fix the cars and the other Ss can die.

    I understood Shimpei did not think this is a good strategy either.
    As for the other posts I did not comment. It is good people grew and got to know each other.

    In the name of Shimpei and myself I express regret and we ask for forgiveness of every party concerned. We shall mend our ways. Shimpei and I are truly sorry for the unfortunate misunderstanding.

    I have not negotiated with Shimpei about the highly deplorable incident. I trust that she in a way no less than myself does find the criticism useful.

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    I don't apologize for anything except that f-word.
    I replied to the original post, agreeing with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    No I haven't read the book, I'll take a look. And I'd like to add there are many other ways of not fitting in with the majority that have nothing to do with typology and are much more salient.

    I don't think I'm blowing anything out of proportion. Yes my language was a bit dramatic, but have you even taken a cursory glance at other MBTI related forums, besides INTPc? Go to Yahoo and look up any MBTI groups. Thread upon thread of, "SJs are ruining my life." Do you not think your thread about ISFJ Inflexibilty is a bit out of proportion?

    It's like people focus on the 1 SJ that annoys them and ignore the 10 others that are not a problem and I don't get that.
    I forgot to tell you........I really like your passion. I bet you're going to turn out like me when you're in your 50's. I hope I'm alive to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhash View Post
    I forgot to tell you........I really like your passion. I bet you're going to turn out like me when you're in your 50's. I hope I'm alive to see it.
    I'm so easy.
    Relationships have normal ebbs and flows. They do not automatically get better and better when the participants learn more and more about each other. Instead, the participants have to work through the tensions of the relationship (the dialectic) while they learn and group themselves and a parties in a relationships. At times the relationships is very open and sharing. Other time, one or both parties to the relationship need their space, or have other concerns, and the relationship is less open. The theory posits that these cycles occur throughout the life of the relationship as the persons try to balance their needs for privacy and open relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    I'm so easy.
    I can tell. Love you......
    Last edited by Zhash; 07-09-2007 at 08:42 PM.

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    S types most often complain about how N types act and think and tell them their way is wrong and that they need to change.

    N types most often on these boards complain about S types complaining about them and the S types attempting to be controlling in this way and the S types lack of interest in trying to understand the N type.

    Yet when the N types do that, they are told they are being too much like the things they don't like about S types. So N types must accept without complaint the complaints that S types send their way or else they are just as bad?

    I think that N types express a great desire to understand the S types and these boards are full of that if one actually wants to see that side of things insead of just focusing on the frustrations and vents. Speaking for myself however, I admit that I get mighty weary of always in my offline life being the one who makes allowances for S types and trying to understand their POV. It seems like it is that way. The ones I know have zero desire to make allowances for my POV, to them when I show my real self I am most often just a silly dreamer who has a warped view on things.

    I admit I have some really extreme cookie cutter versions of S in my life and it is unfortunate for me that I am way over on the N scale, which in my deepest mind I do see as a sort of disadvantage in dealing with other people and I am working on trying to develop my S traits more fully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    I admit I have some really extreme cookie cutter versions of S in my life.
    Cookie Cutter versions write thank you notes after sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shimpei View Post
    I don't apologize for anything except that f-word.
    I replied to the original post, agreeing with it.
    The F-bomb was rather unexpected... but that only made it better.

    Quote Originally Posted by zhash
    Cookie Cutter versions write thank you notes after sex.
    Now it's my turn to laugh at how bad YOU are.

    Quote Originally Posted by zhash
    I forgot to tell you........I really like your passion. I bet you're going to turn out like me when you're in your 50's. I hope I'm alive to see it.
    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix
    I'm so easy.
    Quote Originally Posted by zhash
    I can tell. Love you......
    Wait a minute...! What's all this???
    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

    “Pleasure to me is wonder—the unexplored, the unexpected, the thing that is hidden and the changeless thing that lurks behind superficial mutability. To trace the remote in the immediate; the eternal in the ephemeral; the past in the present; the infinite in the finite; these are to me the springs of delight and beauty.” ~ H.P. Lovecraft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhash View Post
    Cookie Cutter versions write thank you notes after sex.
    Non-INTJs call these love notes, just so you know. Most people like them.

    ( )

    FWIW, my INTJ gf wrote me a whole lot of notes expressing her feelings for me. It's about the only way she can get express her feelings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhash View Post
    Cookie Cutter versions write thank you notes after sex.

    I thought these days they just forward one of those "send this to 2345 people or suffer bad luck forever" spams.

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