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    pt: Yes, and it's the Good Old Clinton days they want. Also, SJs are imperceptive (By definition) so they don't realize Clinton wasn't in charge of their bank account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Also, SJs are imperceptive (By definition)
    :facepalm:

    Anyway, there are a lot of different points of view on voting, and a lot of different reasons for the underlying tendencies. I don't believe it is the SJ in particular that would measure the OP's boyfriend's willingness to vote neo-con. More likely to be dominantly T, if anything, then S for the anti-liberal portion and J for the pro-conservative portion. Combined, T and J for SDO, and maybe STJ for any right wing authority preferences.

    The reason to segment them is because, as people have noted in the thread, it isn't a single faceted issue. It's only when the tendencies combine together that it becomes strongly expressed as a result of underlying preferences.

    That means that not even a majority of SJs would fall into these categories, just enough to be statistically significant - more than the general population.

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    Good points to think about all around. I've heard about studies that "showed" that the brains of "liberals" and "conservatives" use different parts when thinking about politics, and I thought it might be J vs. P at its root.

    I had a thought specifically about this thread topic earlier in the day, but I can't remember what it was...
    You can't spell "justice" without ISTJ.

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    I tested myself online.

    results:

    Your true political self:
    You are a

    Social Moderate
    (55% permissive)

    and an...

    Economic Liberal
    (35% permissive)

    You are best described as a:

    Centrist


    You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (18, -57)
    modscore: (21, 33)
    raw: (2531)

    A link to the test itself:

    OkCupid.com: The Politics Test - Online Dating Test

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    an unscientific voluntary internet poll about MBTI and political affiliation...here are some from the types ive seen here. Interesting though about ISTJ and being split.

    Also look at the difference between ENFP and ESFP. ESFP are the most conservative.

    ISTJ

    We had 103 ISTJs volunteer their political affiliation. The breakdown is as follows:

    1. Republican - 29% (30/103)
    2. Democrat - 29% (30/103)
    3. Not Political - 13% (13/103)
    4. Middle of the Road - 9% (9/103)
    5. Other - 7% (7/103)
    6. Liberal - 5% (5/103)
    7. Conservative - 4% (4/103)
    8. Libertarian - 2% (2/103)

    INTP

    We had 46 INTPs volunteer their political affiliation. The breakdown is as follows:

    1. Republican - 26% (12/46)
    2. Democrat - 26% (12/46)
    3. Not Political - 15% (7/46)
    4. Middle of the Road - 13% (6/46)
    5. Liberal - 13% (6/46)
    6. Conservative - 4% (2/46)
    7. Other - 2% (1/46)
    8. Libertarian - 0% (0/46)

    ISTP

    We had 34 ISTPs volunteer their political affiliation. The breakdown is as follows:

    1. Middle of the Road - 24% (8/34)
    2. Republican - 21% (7/34)
    3. Democrat - 21% (7/34)
    4. Not Political - 12% (4/34)
    5. Liberal - 9% (3/34)
    6. Conservative - 3% (1/34)
    7. Other - 3% (1/34)
    8. Libertarian - 0% (0/34)
    ENFP

    We had 130 ENFPs volunteer their political affiliation. The breakdown is as follows:

    1. Democrat - 27% (35/130)
    2. Republican - 19% (25/130)
    3. Liberal - 16% (21/130)
    4. Not Political - 10% (13/130)
    5. Middle of the Road - 8% (11/130)
    6. Other - 8% (11/130)
    7. Conservative - 7% (9/130)
    8. Libertarian - 5% (6/130)

    ESFP

    We had 67 ESFPs volunteer their political affiliation. The breakdown is as follows:

    1. Republican - 34% (23/67)
    2. Not Political - 19% (13/67)
    3. Democrat - 13% (9/67)
    4. Middle of the Road - 12% (8/67)
    5. Conservative - 10% (7/67)
    6. Liberal - 7% (5/67)
    7. Other - 3% (2/67)
    8. Libertarian - 0% (0/67)

    http://www.personalitypage.com/political_affil.html

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    politicaltypes.com - Psychological Type and U. S. Political Party Affiliation

    this is more like scientific... it is very interesting with explanations as well.

    It mentions the connection about TJ and being republican... etc.

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    Well the other main candidate is running on a theme of "Change". Did he expect to win SJ votes with that kind of slogan?
    You can't spell "justice" without ISTJ.

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    To return to the OP, I'm in a somewhat similar situation as an INFP dating an ESTJ (don't ask me how that happened), so I can relate to this. I am madly in love with him and wouldn't change him for anything, but I still get slightly frustrated at times. It doesn't help that he's a good deal older so we're in some ways seeing the world from the vantage of different generations.

    The strangest part for me is how when it comes to certain issues I (supposedly the emotion-driven, idealistic type) am almost more rational than he is (the rational thinking judging type)! I am at least willing to consider that the other side might be just as valid as mine and that our differences might lie in upbringing and our ways of interpreting information, but for him there's always a right and a wrong, usually already decided in his mind.

    The result of this is that I have spent the last 6 months (about as long as I've known him) in a state of serious ideological turmoil questioning what I was raised to believe (thanks to him), which he thinks is attributable to my lack of religious direction and "grounding" in the "right" beliefs! What I'm wondering is whether this crusade to improve me will always exist or if it's possible for SJ's to accept another's differences.

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