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    Quote Originally Posted by 6sticks View Post
    There's no reason to limit yourself to two choices. It's not like your individual vote matters at all, so you might as well consider all options when choosing someone to run your country.
    Sure, I've considered that also. One thing you know to expect when voting for someone other than a Democrat or Republican for higher offices is that they won't win (regardless of whether that's a good thing). I wonder if it really does "send a message" to those two parties. I suppose it has in the past, with Theodore Roosevelt in 1912, with George Wallace in the hippie era, with Ross Perot a little bit.
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    Well, I mailed in a request for an absentee ballot yesterday. I guess that means I'll probably get the list of names next week. I'm still not sure of what I want to do...
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    Obama is super liberal and borders on the verge of Socialist. It could be a potentially dangerous direction to take the country, in my opinion.

    Obama speaks of change. Change for the sake of change? Do we need change or do we need reform?

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    < ISFJ

    McCain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beat View Post
    Obama is super liberal and borders on the verge of Socialist. It could be a potentially dangerous direction to take the country, in my opinion.
    Only in the states could you hear this o_O


    My suggestion - don't vote. Spend a couple of minutes, work out how much time you spend trying to decide and the time it would spend to vote... then go to the park/whatever and pick up garbage for the same amount of time.

    You won't dilute the voting pool and since you don't have a preference, neither outcome is measurably better for you (not that people vote in their own self-interest *anyway*, but along rhetorical lines) and you will have done more social good than most people do in a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cimarron View Post
    Here you can convince me to vote for your preferred person/party/ideology, or whatever. You have an opportunity: I know what I want, but I'm still pretty undecided about who to vote for in order to get there. And I could vote for (or against) one candidate for more than just one reason.

    Any MBTI type, of course.




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    I put this in this section, because it's specifically about me and my vote, not how everyone else is going to vote. So it's just my personal choice.

    To clarify, I mean all positions. Where I am, a President, one Senator, my House Representative, and some local positions that I should know better are all running for election or re-election.

    I'm voting in a semi-rural Georgia district, and I'm 21 years old, so this is my first federal-level election. I'm pretty informed about politics and news, so don't think that you'll go over my head. Of course, I'll let you know if you do.

    Enjoy. I just thought something like this might be fun.
    Vote for Obama. He'll f*ck up the nation's impact on the world's future... the least.
    "The purpose of life is to be defeated by greater and greater things." - Rainer Maria Rilke

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    Well, the mail is moving more slowly than I thought it would, so it looks like I'm going to be one of those infamous Late Absentee Ballots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beat View Post
    Obama is super liberal and borders on the verge of Socialist. It could be a potentially dangerous direction to take the country, in my opinion.
    You are a fool. Socialism is the polar opposite of liberalism. McCain is more liberal than Obama, because McCain supports free trade.

    Get your facts straight before you start throwing "scary" (For Americans) words around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmileyMan View Post
    You are a fool. Socialism is the polar opposite of liberalism. McCain is more liberal than Obama, because McCain supports free trade.

    Get your facts straight before you start throwing "scary" (For Americans) words around.
    Easy there. I know what you both mean, and you probably each know what the other means. Context makes all the difference.

    Being a liberal means being hated, as far as I can tell:

    In Europe, they hate liberals for not putting enough controls on business.
    In the U.S., they hate liberals for putting too many controls on business.

    Political semantics. So much fun.
    Last edited by Cimarron; 10-31-2008 at 02:02 PM. Reason: funny haha time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cimarron View Post
    In Europe, they hate liberals for not putting enough controls on business.
    In the U.S., they hate liberals for putting too many controls on business.
    Actually, that'd be socialism.

    S: (n) liberalism (an economic theory advocating free competition and a self-regulating market)
    S: (n) socialism, socialist economy (an economic system based on state ownership of capital)

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