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    My ESTJ was very curious and inquisitive. It was one of the things that attracted me to him and I think from what I know about ESTJs now it had something to do with enjoying being competent at a lot of things and also being the go to person who could offer information, trivia, advice, opinions, help, expertise etc. He had a wide range of skills and was always taking a class or learning new things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidelia View Post
    My ESTJ was very curious and inquisitive. It was one of the things that attracted me to him and I think from what I know about ESTJs now it had something to do with enjoying being competent at a lot of things and also being the go to person who could offer information, trivia, advice, opinions, help, expertise etc. He had a wide range of skills and was always taking a class or learning new things.
    Giggly, you crack me up! Seriously, people need to kill the generalizations! SJ's are not a cult or sheep. Each is unique! I want to learn everything I can about everything in the world...from different religious philosphies to politics to human nature and I can't wait to start law school. Is that intellectual curosity? I also like to listen to people talk about their feelings and to nuture the crap out of people. That could be considered non-intellectual curosity.

    I'm loving learning about the different types and how they think and see the world. Some people on this board make me laugh out loud and some leave me thinking about their comments for days randomly. I'm not interested in judging or generalizations. :steam:

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    I do long wikipedia-runs. Whenever I come upon a term or thing I know very little about, it's wiki-time! This has given me an extensive general knowledge, and I usually rock at games like Trivial Pursuit.

    I like random stats and facts. I collect them.

    A friend of mine (female ISTJ) also has a habit of collecting information. However in her case it's dialect-related words of any language. She's always excited to hear another new word.
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    I find that many SJs are more intellectually curious than they let on.

    It's just kept private because the outer world needs to be kept rigidly and practically organized and there isn't much room for curious meandering outside your own thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    What separates the intellectually curious SJ's from the non-intellectually curious SJ's?

    SJ's, on average, seem to be one of the least intellectually curious of the types, but some break this stereotype.

    Do you think extroversion vs. introversion has to do with it? Maturity? Intelligence? Upbringing?
    Yeah, I don't know what it is, but I'm not at all naturally intellectually curious. I know some NJ's who are baffled by my lack of curiosity. Basically I don't like to learn certain things (as dumb as that sounds), I have narrowed interests. Instead of curiosity, I have a desire to succeed in the world. My knowledge may not be top-notch (because of my lack of curiosity) but my hopefulness and work habits, when I'm pushed, make up for it. I'm going to try to become more naturally curious,

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    I think it has less to do with being intellectually curious, but for the purpose. If having the knowledge serves no purpose for the individual, then it's not worth it for them.

    It depends on individuals. If it's within their purpose to take in the information, they'll do so.

    There are a lot of intellectually curious SJs out there, most likely they aren't in the pursuit of anything that crawls across the screen.

    I guess the NT intellect argument got old?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post

    Or simply just a lack of caring about issues that to them are so removed and abstract and have nothing to do with them and what they do care about.
    This. I'm not going to waste my energy debating on something that will benefit me none in the long run.

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    I'm intellectually curious. I wiki what I don't know. Even with words- if I don't know it, I'll look it up.

    Rarely do I ask someone else. I do the work myself, and should it be necessary to share, I will.

    There are some things that I will ask above researching myself. I noticed someone brought up car repair. I'm not going to read about is how to repair something. I might read forums to get a sense of cost and troubleshooting, but I'll ask someone I know who knows cars to tell me what needs to be done.

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    SJs perhaps seem less intellectually curious to you than NTs because we are systematic thinkers. We don't challenge your ideas or do the sparring back-and-forth like NTs do. That doesn't necessarily mean that we're less intellectually curious, capable, or intelligent than NTs. SJs tend to think "inside the box" and accept things as they are, incorporating ideas into universal belief systems, rather than challenge mainstream ideas and look for hidden meanings and connections.

    So maybe it seems like we're not intellectually curious, but we're just not interested in testing ideas with you or engaging in debates or sparring. I'm not a confrontational person, so if someone tries to provoke me, I'm going to give my (differing) opinion, but I'm not interested in arguing with you. When I get attacked by people I tend to ask them questions about why they believe what they belive, rather than challenge their position. This is IRL face-to-face conversations - in writing, I will tear you apart. But I'm a really curious person who is more 5ish than SJ. I want to know about everything and anything.
    Yeah, what dnrivera said. Plus, I usually have either thought about a lot of the angles of a topic or can think through the different opinions possible quickly, so I don't need to go through those motions out loud. It's simply more efficient for me to debate a topic internally and listen to others' thoughts on it when necessary.

    I love reading up on topics as I am a very visual learner and it is easy for me to remember things I read. I tend to get hold of something and research it to death for a few weeks or months and then move on to another topic to study in depth. My whole family is like this so there certainly is an element of 'tradition' to it, but I think I would love learning even if I had a different upbringing.
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    I think the stereotype that S's aren't as intelligent as N's isn't quite right. My dad is an ISTJ and is VERY intelligent (graduated top of his high school in Toronto, has an MD and MPH). My mother (ESFJ) is also very intelligent and has a masters as well. I (I/ESFJ) would rate my intelligence as reasonably high (IQ tests that I've done suggest 120-125 range). I'm also very interested in stuff like the MBTI and new concepts and ideas (probably due to a tertiary Ti or Ne)

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