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    oh i do the same thing too. just didn't want anyone to take it the wrong way ya know
    "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlittrell View Post
    i just think it should be worded different...I could see SJ's taking this as disrespectful (i dunno im not an sj)

    though i thank you for informing me that these are kinda standard, kinda feel like a dick now, but even still, could be top 3 things SJ's need to WORK on...not why they suck

    there are big differences between INTJ's and INTP's, i wonder why that notation is used, man im way too picky

    thanks for the correction btw
    Thanks for noticing.

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    welcome
    "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress. "

    "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty."

    "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

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    From personal experience (and a lot of it...)

    Reason number 3 - Complete and utter literalism - I went with a coworker to a pizza resturant for an "All You Can Eat" buffet. There were a lot of different pizzas avilable, and salads, pastas, etc. I entered and looked around, planning where to sit, finding the restroom, etc. and noticed the sign for the lunch buffet customers: 1)Pay cashier 2)Take tray. When I did those two things I sat down. And waited. Nowhere on the sign did it say to get food. Once clued in, I did enjoy a nice lunch. The price was reasonable, and the food served it's purpose...oh wait - sorry.

    Reason number 2 - Boring - I admit it (although probably more so for the I vs. E). When I took the entire test (there were about fifty of us at the time taking it, IIRC), the administrator then showed type differences with role playing, etc. She asked for anyone who scored above 80 on the "I" scale. About six or seven of us stood up. She then asked for those who scored over 85. Two of us were left standing. She asked what our scores were. Again, IIRC, mine was about 95. Similarly high scores for S, T and J. The adminsitrator didn't use me for an example after the second time because "his answers would just be the same." Heck, I thought that was the point.

    And the number 1 reason - wait, what exactly is the criteria for "top three"? Each individual's top three reasons, a collective vote on the top three reasons, top three from SJ's themselves; how can you call a list "top three" without some kind of objective criteria? Reading the posts from the start it seems like "top sixty-two" or something. Can the thread be renamed?

    Anyway, just my thoughts.

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    We kick ass. Deal with it.

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    I have been dealing with it for- ----forty-one years! Is my butt sore!

    My ISTJ husband sometimes wears a button which says "Rule #1. I am never wrong. Rule #2. If I'm ever wrong, see Rule #1.

    He has no idea how hillarious I find this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    I have been dealing with it for- ----forty-one years! Is my butt sore!

    My ISTJ husband sometimes wears a button which says "Rule #1. I am never wrong. Rule #2. If I'm ever wrong, see Rule #1.

    He has no idea how hillarious I find this.
    An INFP with an ISTJ husband.

    Has it been a rough ride, honestly?

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    Well I don't have a problem with them in general. I think that their main problem is a problem for them more than for everybody else: they sometimes do things that are not very much...needed and produce unintended consequences. An good example is the ISFJ putting things in order before they've been used; or my ISTJ dad cleaning his bike every time he uses it, or my ESTJ boss needing to re-check every calculation four times before being sure he's right.
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    Not sure if this applies to all SJs or just to me:

    1. The constant (and illogical) belief that everyone is as honest as them (making them almost depressingly gullible, especially on april fool's day)

    2. MUST. BE. ORGANIZED. ALL. THE. TIME.

    3. Fear of change. Even if it's totally unimportant change. Who cares? Routine must be kept at all costs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlittrell View Post
    without SJ's this world would be under utter chaos...
    Ah yes, beautiful, beautiful chaos. I can't wait another day.


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